moonpiedumplings
Alright, this is gonna be long.
Firstly, yes, different static site generators have different templating langauges. But just like normal programming languages, it is easy to transition from one templating langauge to another. If you take a look at the syntax:
- Pelian: https://pypi.org/project/Jinja2/
- Hugo: https://pkg.go.dev/text/template, https://pkg.go.dev/html/template
Not drastically different, but reading the docs, they are all similar enough, and easy to learn.
I wouldn't call go's templating language "esoteric", but it should be noted that jinja2 is has other uses, most notably it is the templating engine that Ansible uses.
As for the docs... This could probably be a blog post by itself.
Firstly, take a look at this website: https://killedbygoogle.com/ . Google has created and then killed 296 projects, many of which were actively used and working. Why?
This is because, internally at Google, you get promoted if you either A: write software, or B: add more features to software. So what happens is people write software, get promoted, and then realize they don't get paid more if they actually maintain that software, so they just kill it. Also, they forget to write documentation (because it doesn't pay more or get you promoted).
Hugo, is by a Google Engineer, and it shows (or at least, it used to). Software by Google has two distinct characteristics (actually 3 if we count being written in Go).
- It has every feature you could ever want, even stuff you haven't heard of
- And it's poorly documented. Or not at all lmao.
But, "being poorly documented" is not a permanent fixture of this software, but instead something that mostly persists for as long as it's Google software. Often, these projects get "adopted" by the wider community, who fixes up their documentation. Looking at hugo's docs, it doesn't seem be nightmarishly bad, especially for the core, main set of features. Like the setup docs appear to be clear (although a more complex process than alternatives).
But like, for search options: https://gohugo.io/tools/search/ . That google software pattern continues. There are like 10 options on the page, and no docs from hugo on their usage/installation lol.
Anyway, I would recommend eithier Pelican or Jekyll, given your requirements. Because everything you write is in markdown, it will be fairly easy to move from one static site generator to another, even if you are dissatisfied.
Also, kinda sorta relevant:
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But the point I'm trying to make is the same. Don't agonize over selecting the perfect static site generator.
I already made a comment but you should also look at rocketchat and revolt, since they are basically FOSS discord clones
(I saw comments in the thread about wanting audio only calls.)
It's actually not that hard. (Well it is, media and networking are hard, but)
I think the problem is that when people search for something better than Teams (or any other software), they confuse "better than", with a mostly nonexistent "best". In doing so, they skip over the way every single thing people suggest is "good enough".
Like, following this thread, we went from "I want a teams (voice/video/chat) alternative" to "Yeah I don't like Jami because it leaks metadata." How did we go from wanting a teams alternative, to wanting privacy with no metadata leakage? Those are very different things, and you make tradeoffs if you take one set of feature over the other. If you just add "no metadata leakage" on top of your current wishes, then you are probably going to be disatisfied with every option given.
Or "Firewalls and hole punching!" (implying a p2p architecture) and "depends on peers being reliable" (being frustrated with the pitfalls of a p2p architecture). Again, wtf? Of course there is software that is both p2p and client server, but that is hard and tradeoffs will end up being made, even purely in what the developer spends their limited time on.
This person just needs to get out of their head, whip up deployments for every software (or suite if there is more than one) mentioned in the thread, and pick the one that looks the nicest.
Quarto has theming via several built in bootstrap themes.
Quarto is written in javascript.
Also, it has no template engine/templating. I have a nasty hack where I write python code blocks (vua quarto's ability to execute code blocks) to output markdown that can be remdered to both html and pdf, which is pretty unique. But this is probably not what most people making a website want.
You may want quarto. It is explicitly designed for data science and related usecases, and has ample support for the graphs those usecases need.
I use quarto: https://quarto.org/
The big thing I like is that it has fulltext local search, built in and easy to enable.
Search is possible on hugo, but it's not built in, you have to get a plugin, etc etc. Same for many other options you mentioned.
Heres my website: https://moonpiedumplings.github.io/
You want either mattermost or the whole matrix stack (backend, plus element with voice/video calls).
Matrix/Element is more of a discord alternative, whereas mattermost tries to be more of a slack alternative, where it seems to have some calendar integrations.
Big bluebutton is now integrated into Canvas, an open source learning management software (LMS) that every school I have went to has used.
It's more like Chromium, the engine behind Chrome, to be precise. It eats up marketshare by essentially being anti-competitive, and making it more difficult for alternate engines to keep up with the fluctuating and undefined web standards.
No, he now works at Microsoft, which is famous for it's Embrace, Extend, Extinguish strategy for consuming open source and open standards.
But despite that, I'm actually not worried about systemd being taken over by a corporation and being completely used to dominate Linux. Unlike consumer software, where companies seem to be willing to take a step back and allow other corporations to monopolize a slice of the market dedicated to a usecase, corporations actually seem willing to share in the server space.
Systemd also seems to be designed with a very specific philosophy in mind, which is vastly different from Chromiums "Alright, time for a new web standard that Firefox and Safari will have trouble implementing!". Systemd, is essentially designed to replicate features of Kubernetes.
Kubernetes is (buzzwords incoming), a clustered, highly available, multi tenant, declarative, service manager and job scheduler. To break down what that means:
Systemd is essentially trying to Kubernetes, without the clustering and highly available parts of Kubernetes. It has:
Now, based on the assumption, I can make some predictions about what features systemd will add next. Maybe these are wrong, but eh.
Now, "one node Kubernetes" probably isn't the best choice for a normal server or desktop distro. (Actually I love Kubernetes as a server but that's a different discussion). But it's the most popular choice, so I think people should be aware of the architecture and intent. Especially if you dislike systemd, you should understand what changes it makes, why, and how they will impact the Linux world.
Kubernetes handles everything, except for booting the system, being a kernel, and starting itself up, and connecting to the network. Core services like DNS are actually containers ran within Kubernetes. The "firewall" (network policies) are also containers. If systemd truly wants to be Kubernetes, it seems to be trying to be even more, where consuming things like booting with systemd-boot and connecting to the network with systemd-network. I'm not personally concerned, because Kubernetes has consumed the server world and that hasn't seem to have gone wrong, but I can understand why people would be concerned.
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