pootriarch

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I'm still on Pop!_OS 22.04, the last release version. My applications are getting very out of date from being tied to the jammy package repo.

It looks like Pop.next is still in alpha, which suggests it could be 2026 before it's RC. I don't actually like any other distro — I built a new laptop on Mint, which I only tolerate. But I'm getting nervous, and the UIs for enough apps have evolved sufficiently that it's creating some cognitive load to remember how to use both versions (LibreOffice and Evolution stand out).

What have people chosen to do?

 

the year is 2008. taylor effortlessly uses the singular they in a hook, at a time when probably none of us would have thought of it, in a song about hetero high-school heartbreak.

now they're lighting the world on fire over pronouns. this isn't hollywood. this is a hellmouth.

the jmp support bot lists an 'lnp' option for porting in — so they support it in principle — but it's worth engaging jmp support once you're signed up, as they've probably been through this and could save you some hassles. i had a skype number (two actually) but left them both behind as jmp could assign me numbers i liked better.

if you haven't gotten a referral code yet, PM me.

yes, you're right on both counts. i lose today :(

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

the pictured streetcar is a half-block from the railway museum, just out of frame to the right. they even have a 'field guide' for spotters: https://ramblingreaders.org/book/374078/s/on-track

 

Sam on Mastodon (linked post) grumbles about the profanity filters on jmp.chat (presumably from upstream providers) and getting messages rejected. I've experienced the same, including having my account blocked if I mistakenly send it twice.

When I inquired, support said they were working on improved "routes" (upstream providers) and that I would be waitlisted for the beta of the new routes. That was months ago and I've heard nothing since.

Has anyone gotten into the beta program, and does it improve the situation? Because sometimes you just don't have two fucks to give.

I might need to switch my phone provider. As much as I've loved having all my messages delivered via #XMPP, jmp.chat's upstream providers decency filter is killing me. I constantly get text messages rejected for using swear words. If you ask they insist that all phone providers do this, but if I copy the same message over to my other provider it sends fine.

Are there any other good VoIP providers (not necessarily with XMPP compatibility, but that would be great) that aren't puritanical?

I have the Multiling keyboard. I don't recommend it to others as it's rather long in the tooth and still has quirks I haven't fully sorted. I keep it precisely because it does multi-language support with separate dictionaries; I switch it between U.S. English and French Canadian and autocorrect follows. It's massively customizable but I don't understand it and am more likely to render it unusable than to make it better.

 

What is the default chat retention period in Snikket instances provided by JMP? Is it configurable in the admin panel for an instance?

i do have. and my 'sms' goes over it. but i can't make everyone come to me. (i did abandon the ones who are whatsapp-only tho)

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

When I installed Signal it complained that I didn't have Google Play Services and fell back to websockets. But my phone is boring, I do have Google services. Could I have something in a firewall config that made it pick wrong? Is it using a different checking mechanism from all my other apps that go through FCM?

Unfortunately this is a non-starter for me at the moment.

  • Molly/FOSS/UP is deprecated and frozen at a prior version, so I'm at risk of vulnerabilities.
  • Upgrading to current Molly-FOSS requires a VAPID-capable mollysocket (1.5 or higher).
  • mollysocket cannot be upgraded with a simple cargo install. cargo throws error[E0599]: no function or associated item named ec_gen found for struct PKey<_> in the current scope

Searching for PKey::ec_gen() points to openssl. mollysocket has at least two dependencies that it doesn't declare, but we don't know how many.

You probably need to install some system packages, like libssl-dev libsqlite3-dev.

The best-case scenario is that libssl-dev is a lower version from what it wants, and that an upgrade would clear the problem. But since the dependency isn't declared, we don't know the minimum version. In my case it doesn't matter as I'm in a shared hosting environment and I can't just change system packages.

I'll need to figure out a way to go back to vanilla Signal, and a way for Signal to recognize that I do in fact have Google Play Services. The Molly docs explain only moving to Molly, not away from it.

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i surely didn't explain well. to my knowledge there are three mollys. the standard one with google services blobs, the -foss that has no blobs and presumably has to use websockets, and the -up (-foss-up?) that can do unified push, though it doesn't have to.

i forget whether foss and -up were in different repos to each other. but without my changing any repos, molly(-foss)-up updated itself to 7.23.1-1.up1-foss. this is behind the 7.26 of -foss. it displays a dialog that says it's deprecated, and since it's left backrevved, isn't likely getting security updates. clicking install sends you into the hole i described at first.

i do believe this path is working and that my notifications are coming through my xmpp account, not websockets. but i haven't traced it to prove it is so.

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

OK, the VAPID key is new and it's mentioned but not documented (other than to say it's used if 'it supports it'). Is Molly now dependent on the QR code and VAPID for configuration (meaning I couldn't attach it to the pre-1.5 mollysocket that I have now)?

thank you! i have to look at mollysocket then; i don't remember the vapid/qr step, so might have to upgrade it also

 

F-Droid just pushed a Molly-UP update that appears to only add a deprecation warning, and that holds the version number below Molly-FOSS.

There are no instructions. The Install link points to the repo, which F-Droid just notes that I already have.

In the past I have completely lost Signal history twice, once from reinstalling Signal itself but it refusing to read the backup, and once from trying to upgrade from Signal to Molly but having a backup versioned in the wrong direction.

Is the safe process for replacing Molly-UP written down anywhere? I would strongly prefer keeping Unified Push, but I feel like I've been told to walk into a dark tunnel.

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

'taylor swift inspired' anything is a warning label, not an enticement. i'd feel this way whether i were a lover, a hater, or a very casual fan making accidental references

 

There's a lot of consternation about the number of services that refuse to register against a JMP number. At the core I suspect it's about information sharing — your carrier will happily give your details to third parties, where JMP doesn't have that information to begin with.

I dealt with this differently. I stopped thinking of my mobile as my 'real' number, but instead as my public one. All personal contacts have my personal JMP number, Signal is registered against my JMP number. Cellular SMS has notifications silenced. When an SMS is important, like when logging into a bank, I know it's coming. No unexpected SMS is welcome.

This works for me because my friends don't use voice, so JMP having metered talk time doesn't matter. But mainly, I don't think of either number as 'real'. I pay for both, and each has its use.

[–] pootriarch@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

it's not a cap, it's that the monthly fee covers 120 mins. overages accrue per-minute charges, but if you're routinely needing more than 2h talk time, jmp may not be the best answer

q21 on https://jmp.chat/faq

Every JMP plan comes with calling credit, worth approximately 120 minutes within the US & Canada, included in the monthly price. By default accounts are set to be warned when this limit is reached so no one gets any surprise charges without getting permission first. You can adjust your plan settings with the bot to raise this limit and allow your account balance to be directly billed for any minutes over the included amount.

per-minute pricing: https://jmp.chat/pricing/USD#US

 

I've tried Magic Earth a handful of times, but each time I dumped it because it marked a street as closed or wrong-way, creating a circuitous detour. There's no such issue in OSM; it simply hallucinated something.

I was testing it so I knew where I was going, but I'm reluctant to rely on it when I really need nav. Have I been supremely unlucky?

 

My primary home is in XMPP for Reasons, but it would occasionally be useful to DM someone in Matrix.

I know there are bridges, through aria-net if I remember correctly, and I know encryption is impossible through a bridge. Aside from encryption, is connection seamless or is it glitchy, and if the latter, are we talking occasional nuisance or Cone of Silence?

 

i sent out a plea for spanish pop music and this came back. it's exactly what i wanted

 

I have Dino 0.4 on Ubuntu. Whenever I upgrade anything in flatpak, it tells me that Dino is using a GNOME 44 runtime and that it’s out of support.

Is Dino under active development, and I should just hold tight? Or should I be looking for a different XMPP client?

 

whole lotta history 4k remaster just came out. i don't know how soon i'll be able to watch it again, since it ends with sarah walking wistfully along the seine. i hope the girls are able to remember her somehow on the tour.

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