We published this response to a recent article promoting insecure devices with /e/OS with inaccurate claims, including inaccurate comparisons to GrapheneOS:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private
The founder of /e/OS has responded with misinformation promoting /e/OS and attacking GrapheneOS.
We made a post with accurate info on our forum in response to inaccurate information, that's all. There's a lot more we could have covered. See https://kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfreundlich-bedeutet-nicht-zwangslaeufig-sicher-custom-roms-teil6/ for several examples such as /e/OS having unique user tracking in their update client not communicated to users.
The founder of /e/OS responded to the post we made on our forum here:
https://mastodon.social/@gael/114874688715085353
Gaël Duval has repeatedly personally targeted the founder of GrapheneOS in response to us posting accurate information responding to misinformation from /e/OS and their supporters.
Contrary to what's claimed in this thread, /e/OS does not improve privacy. /e/OS massively reduces privacy compared to the Android Open Source Project in multiple ways. /e/OS is consistently very far behind on shipping important privacy improvements in new major Android releases.
/e/OS regularly lags many weeks, months and even years behind on shipping important privacy and security patches. They roll back various parts of the privacy and security model, add a bunch of privileged Google service integration and their own privacy invasive services too.
The link posted at https://mastodon.social/@gael/114875028964272029 shows /e/OS shipping the previous round of Chromium privacy/security patches a couple weeks late. It regularly takes them months instead of weeks. They take far longer to ship many of the important driver, firmware and AOSP patches.
The link also shows they're using the wrong Chromium tags for Android and frequently results in missing Android-specific privacy/security patches. Chromium 138.0.7204.97 was a June 30th release for Windows, not Android. The Android tag for June 30th was 138.0.7204.63.
https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/07/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_15.htmlhttps://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/06/chrome-for-android-update_30.html
Patches in Chromium Stable channel updates for Android are often only in the Android tags, not the Windows ones.
The current Android release is 138.0.7204.157, with security patches beyond 138.0.7204.63:
https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/releases?platform=Android
These were minor releases of Chromium. It's trivial to incorporate the changes and ship them on release day within hours. Even major releases of Chromium every ~4 weeks are easy to ship on release day because major releases are open source for weeks in advance, unlike Android.
As can be seen by looking back through https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Vanadium/releases and comparing it to the Android release dashboard linked above, we ship the Chromium Stable and Early Stable releases on release day. This is not impressive. Shipping privacy/security patches is the bare minimum.
Our forum post and this thread were both posted in response to inaccurate info about GrapheneOS posted to promote /e/OS. Once again personally targeting our founder with fabricated stories and harassment from their community is what /e/OS has done before and continues doing.
/e/OS targeted the founder of DivestOS in a similar way and /e/OS supporters directed a massive amount of harassment towards him. It played a significant role in DivestOS being discontinued. /e/OS will not achieve the same thing targeting our founder and should stop doing it.
/e/OS is extraordinarily insecure and non-private due to lagging so far behind on patches and crippling Android Open Source Project privacy/security protections. Selling many devices many months or even years of missing Critical severity patches and hiding it in the UI is wrong.
Murena's services are not nearly as private as claimed and not at all on the same level as serious options such as Proton's software suite. Many of their services recently went down from early October 2024 through March 2025:
https://community.e.foundation/t/update-on-murena-io-service-outage/61781
It's somehow a paid service.