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R(ul)evenge USA edition (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to "Leftists who won't vote" & "MAGA Republicans" teaming up to "getting revenge on liberals".

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago
[-] knightly@pawb.social 7 points 9 months ago

I'm much less concerned about the hostility of those who openly demand genocide than the inaction of those who merely pretend to oppose it.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Strong "at least they're honest about it" energy

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

The worst thing I could wish for you as a person, is that this comment follows you around for the rest of your life.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The complaint is about duplicity, not an acceptance or exoneration of those who openly agitate for it.

An ‘ally’ who goes along to get along, but has a radically different value set is not an ally. “9 people sit a a table with a Nazi and say nothing - how many Nazis are at the table?” We decry the Russians who don’t speak out against Putin, but shuffle uncomfortably when the DNC’s top candidate is pursuing a path that enables atrocities?

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

It's a bullshit complaint for many reasons, but one of them is that they already stated that they won't participate in an easy activity to help mitigate genocide.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 4 points 9 months ago
[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

When trans kids are being shoved into meat grinders I'll let them know that it's okay because you mastered the peak of internet wit.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm trans. My entire childhood and most of my adulthood was spent in a Texas meat grinder.

I tell you what, you hang around here and wait six months to vote against the meat grinders and I'll go back to doing something useful like helping people move from red states to sanctuary cities.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

I'm glad that you're taking direct action and using your time to affect positive change. With that said, voting in Texas is particularly important, since the GOP's margin in the state has been thinning every year. Furthermore, if Trump gets elected, there's a decent chance that sanctuary cities could cease to be, and so I again encourage you to vote; it doesn't take very long and can make a literal world of difference. At the very least, you should stop discouraging other people from voting, because that runs counter to our shared stated goal, and is apparently wasting your precious time.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

I strongly disagree. The focus on voting only serves as a distraction from the direct action necessary to effect political change under a dysfunctional regime.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

And spending even more time arguing about it isn't a distraction because...

[-] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 9 months ago

I'm procrastinating while stuck at work, what's your excuse?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 9 months ago

I'd certainly hope so, as I was loosely paraphrasing Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Letter from Birmingham Jail":

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

In your mind, MLK was okay with the right kind of genocide?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 9 months ago

Where did that come from? Of course not.

It's easy to know where one stands in relation to enemies. The same can't be said for false allies and fake friends like all the liberals who turn a blind eye to genocide when it's their guy enabling it.

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