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[-] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Cliff and his co-admin Kyle Reddoch are now working on their own alternative index, that doesn’t include this requirement. It’s a massive undertaking, and requires vetting communities asking permission for inclusion, and regularly checking in on community developments. Still, they’re optimistic.

“[We] are making a list on our Wiki of instance that both federate and defederate from Threads,” Kyle writes, “we feel people [should] have the choice themselves and not have someone else choose for them.”

I kind of think that it'd be nice if there were support for various instances claiming that they support various collections of policies, as it'd be an easier way to identify how instances work and choosing one.

Like, right now it involves manually reading through each instance's sidebar, but if it were published in a standard way, it could be used to filter instances on lemmyverse.net, to help a user find an instance that they like.

And one instance could commit to multiple sets of (compatible) policies, doesn't need to be just one.

From a user standpoint, when the first step in entering the Threadiverse is a huge number of instances and manually reading through lots of individual instance policies, that can be a bit overwhelming.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 4 months ago

entering the Threadiverse

That's not a fucking thing. Threads doesn't own the Fediverse and they clearly are not welcome on it either.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Threadiverse" isn't a reference to Meta's "Threads".

It's referring to the lemmy/kbin/similar portion of the Fediverse, the threaded-forum "Reddit-alikes", as opposed to, say, Mastodon or Funkwhale.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 4 months ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

So, the problem is that:

  • Saying "Fediverse" is too broad, like talking about "the Internet" when one is talking about Reddit.

  • Saying "lemmy" -- currently the most-widely-used software package to do a Threadiverse instance -- is too narrow, and excludes kbin and some other software packages.

  • "Reddit-alike" doesn't seem ideal, as I'd imagine that the Threadiverse will evolve past whatever Reddit has been and already differs in some ways. I'm also not really enthralled in terms of branding the thing in terms of Reddit.

I don't intrinsically feel that "Threadiverse" has to be the term for that, but I do think that there's a need for a term for that. It's the only term I've seen used so far for it.

It does rely on punning on "Fediverse" and sounds similar, which I regret a bit -- I think that it might be nicer if it sounded more different, so that one couldn't perhaps mistake one term for the other. But I'm generally okay with it, myself.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 4 months ago

I'm against it sounding like "Threads" i.e. as though it's something Meta owns and controls. For all I know your use came first and the thing I hate is Meta appropriating it, though.

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 4 months ago

I kinda dislike the word as well. Makes it seem like it's sort of a separate and special side of the Fediverse, when it isn't. It's just as interconnected and interoperable with other Fediverse software like Mastodon (microblogging) or Friendica (macroblogging) the same way as others are. In fact, here I am, replying to you from Friendica.

Imo people could just call them as they are: bulletin boards. Or just something involving groups, idk (because that's what they are, mostly).

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