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If the seller does a background check…
It will still be illegal for him to possess them or even try to obtain them.
The only way to purchase a firearm without a background check (that also isn't an express ticket to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison) is to buy a used firearm from a private individual in your state. That person also needs to not be a prohibited person themselves, cannot be a firearms dealer by trade, and the firearm must be legal to own in the state in which you both reside.
Online gun sales, new gun sales, and gun sales crossing state lines all require a background check be performed by a licensed dealer, known as an FFL. The ATF randomly audits about 10-15% of FFLs in a given year, which doesn't include the number audited as a part of investigations following up on complaints and tips.
Sorry for the wall of text. Whenever people bring up background checks the uninformed yet highly opinionated tend to come out of the woodwork.
P.S.: If any of said individuals would like to prevent cases that slip through the cracks please write your representatives to increase ATF funding for enforcement activities.
It's illegal, but because firearms are so hilariously ubiquitous, there is effectively no standard of ownership or storage, and law enforcement has inadequate tools to tackle gun tracing by design, there is ample opportunity for a prohibited person to unlawfully obtain a gun in the US. Made even more laugable by the open, legal marketing of products like the P80, which are ending up in police evidence lockups across the country.
The gun culture in America is inherently anti-social and anti-establishment, so rules and laws cannot just be lightly suggested and expected that they be followed. People need to consistently go to prison and permanently lose their gun rights for their fuckups to start changing things.
Did you write your representative like I asked or are you just here to vent?
I didn't, because I live in a state that licenses gun owners, tracks all pistol purchases and actually throws people in jail for being criminally negligent with their guns. I can guess where they stand on gun control and gun law enforcement.
I assume you didn't either, because you don't actually care about any of this and just took the chance to info-dump and misdirect people who want to regulate your toys.
Hmmm methinks a good faith discussion will not be found here...