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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or we could cut out the middle man and just vote or not vote ourselves on issues as we see fit?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's how you get an America-like situation where the goal isn't to come up with policies the most people agree with, but to find ways to get the people who already agree with you to turn out to vote, and to dissuade people who disagree with you from voting.

It's a brilliant way to empower NIMBYs even more than they already are.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Okay so make it mandatory with a “no opinion” option for those who are not concerned on issues.

We don’t actually need to have an individual opinion on every topic, nor would everyone care about everything. Let’s empower people to make their own choices for once.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

make it mandatory

There are an average of two divisions every single day Parliament sits. And that's without counting votes that are determined on the voices. Or issues at the state and local council levels. Federally, there are about 200 Bills introduced every single year. There's not necessarily anything wrong with enabling people to vote on all of them if they want to, but making it mandatory is a ludicrous proposition. Enabling people to choose a proxy is not just a good idea, it's a necessity to do large-scale direct democracy.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cool, so don’t make it mandatory. I don’t really care.

What I care about is that people have a direct say in what they want to vote for. Not have to hope a representative actually represents them.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's how Thor's idea works. You choose your proxy. You don't elect them without the option to change until the next election. You can switch proxies or take over directly at literally any time.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I don’t want to choose a proxy, I want a direct say. The only person I want representing me, is me.

Anything less is simply lipstick on a pig.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don’t want to choose a proxy, I want a direct say

Ok then? Do that. But why should your preference to do it that way dictate how everyone must do it?

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fuck off mate, trying to lurk me for 10 minutes because you got called out in a comment on a completely different topic on a different instance.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s obvious I’m not going to invest any real time engaging with your sort. So fuck off and stop harassing me across Lemmy.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Right you just happened to come into a niche auspol community, find my post about voting, and reply to only me with a butthurt comment about being called out elsewhere on Lemmy.

How fucking much of a nong do you have it be to think anyone is buying that.

Im done replying to you now. Go enjoy whatever other pathetic things it is you do online.

Edit: and you edit all your comments to hide what you’ve said. Fucking loser.