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this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
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Luckily there's a bunch of instances not just lemmy.world. If we find it's starting to get too centralized we can always subscribe to other communities. Or am I wrong?
That's actually not a bad idea. If they're not actively modding they might not see posts to the community that say "use that community instead of this one"
You're not wrong, but you're underestimating the importance of network effects. Most users want to be where the other users are, so they're going to stick with the largest community for a topic unless there's a really good reason for them to move.
On top of that, at least on Reddit, moderators had a lot of power to suppress dissent by e.g. shadowbanning people so that their comments didn't even show up as "[removed]," so not only could they prevent anybody from advertising alternative subs, they could do it in such a way that the other users wouldn't even notice that something had been censored. Hopefully, Lemmy doesn't work the same way.
@Kodemystic You are not wrong, but that is also a bad user experience and waste of time.
No, its the entire point of a federated system. If one instance goes down, you can create an account on another instance and continue browsing posts from all other servers still online. No one server has complete control of the system.
@DragonAce Okay, but that was not my point. One can improve usability of a decentralized systems. It does not need to be a bad user experience and waste of time.
How is it a bad user experience? Because you have to make an account on another instance? You can still browse from another instance without logging into it.
How would you suggest they improve the user experience without expecting them to have some sort of centralized login server? Having any sort of centralized user management leads to a single point of attack for anyone looking to exploit the system.
I think that if you are concerned with user experience you should stick with a centralized system. I am willing to sacrifice a bit of the user experience for decentralization. But that's just me.
@Kodemystic That's a poor excuse for not improving.
I think that if you have something to point out and/or propose a solution for improvement you can do so here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues
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