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Do You Want a ‘Unified Reich’ Mind-Set in the White House?
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And for half that time we had it, we didn't get much done and instead wasted that time "looking into" stuff...
And two years later, you're surprised turnout is going to be low?
Do you not remember what we were promised if we got the Georgia runoffs?
How does this not make sense to you?
Biden and Dem leadership squandered a chance we get every few decades
I love this "they had control for 4 of the last 24 years, and we don't have the Jetson's life!! Why don't they do anything!?"
Dude, 4 fucking years in the last 24 (or 4 months if you want filibuster proof) and you're complaining about lack of Jetson's life. Do you hear yourself? It's unbelievable. I'm glad that I cracked the code to what you expect because now everyone can see it.
Actual progress takes time and effort to work out policies and get votes from your own party (you know, the party whip). The world can't change direction on a dime like you insist. So they need consistent and overwhelming victories.
Why go back so far?
We're talking about Biden's first term, and he had it for two years, during which nothing was actually done because he didn't "look into" anything until taking office apparently.
He just won the election and took a vacation.
In case you couldn't tell from midterms, voters didn't appreciate that...
"so far"? Dude that's not that far.
We've talked (pretty sure it was you) and I finally realized that I had to hammer home to you that Dems need consistent and overwhelming victories. So I'm looking at recent history of say 24 years.
I added to my previous comment, you have to figure out what your own party supports and will vote for. This is why you have a party whip. Dems presidents are not dictators that their own party will just blindly support. Not to mention that the bill usually starts in Congress, not the president. Congress needs to write it.
So you're back to expecting The Jetsons life out of two measly years. Dude. It's not how it works. Actual progressive legislation requires actual time, effort, and work. 2 years is next to nothing. The world can't turn around on a dime.
Took a vacation LOL. He's been doing absolute fuckton. But it's not enough for you, thus you wanting Jetsons. I cracked the code.
You're having a different conversation than everyone else, I think that's what's frustrating you.
We are talking about the last four years, two of which Biden had majorities, u til the inaction during those two years led to republicans taking the House.
I have zero idea why you're insisting we talk about the last 24 years.
I'm also not sure why you keep talking about the Jetsons.
Like, I'd try to explain this better, but it's impossible when you refuse to talk about anything rather than what you want.
It's like if two people were talking at a party and you walked up and screamed:
Sure, those people could try and explain all the ways your wrong and why it has nothing to do with what they were talking about.
Or they could just smile and nod politely and walk away.
The problem is you seem to think that is "winning" some "argument"...
Actually I think you're the one having a different conversation, or at least refuses to see anything except "but 2, or 4, years".
First thing, Biden is doing a fuckton, but it's not enough for you. So I'm pointing out that you demand Jetsons life/tech/change.
This is not limited to the last 4 years. You really want it to be, but it's not. None of this is one and done. If this is about effecting significant changes, real changes, real movement of the Overton window, over multiple aspects of life, that requires a ton of time, work, and effort. 2 years or even 4 years is nothing. Real, significant change requires consistent and overwhelming victories. This means by definition it is over several elections and over several Presidents.
I'm getting some serious "I'm 18 and think the world can change on a dime" vibes. 2 years is a long time for a 18 year old, I get it. But when you start working trying to effect serious change, you'll realize serious change requires a ton of time, effort, and work. Thus requires consistent and overwhelming victories. Thus far longer than 4 years or 8 years or one presidency.
And the only one of those we've expended is time.
What are you even on about? They basically never have control. 4 years out of the last 24 years, and you say they've wasted (?) it?
Yes, they have wasted it. Unless you consider preserving the filibuster, strikebreaking, killing bbb, and killing the public option to be accomplishments.
We gave them majorities, and they refused to use them.
Before you reply with the article about the IBEW being happy with Biden, we're talking about congress, not Biden.
You're all over the map with your replies. You just said "Thanks to centrist Democrats like Manchin, they can do it with 0." as in the GOP can block Biden and the Dems.
Biden is doing a fuckton. But anyway we're back to "Biden had it for 2 years, why don't we have Jetsons life!" See the whole post again, Dems have had control for 4 years of the last 24 years. But you want to say "why aren't they doing anything". It's unreal.
And when Republicans don't have a majority, just enough Democrats step in to block progressive policy for them, yes.
Your assertion that Biden is doing a fuckton is unsupported, and your bullshit about the Jetsons is an idiotic strawman. I'd tell you to do better, but if you had defensible positions, you wouldn't need to keep spamming bullshit.
Thank you for showing everyone who you are.
Which is?