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I hate having to explain this shit to my daughter.
We were talking about the "man vs. bear" thing and about trusting strange men and how even if a man isn't horrific enough to try to assault her, many men who help her will expect sexual favors in return and would at the least harass her.
This world is so ugly and I have to show her that on a daily basis.
Fair enough but the problem isn't just "strange men."
I agree, and we've talked about that issue as well more than once, but this was specifically in regards to that whole "what would you be worried about more if you're alone in the woods, a strange man or a bear?" thing that was spreading around where lots of women said they would be more worried about the strange man.
The reason it really happened was that my daughter said to me that she would pick the man because the man would help her get out of the woods, so I was explaining to her why many women say they wouldn't trust the strange man.
She's (almost) 14. She doesn't really understand how some men will end up preying on her yet.
Sounds like your daughter has good common sense to me
You're missing the point. Of course being lost in the woods with another human is preferable to a bear. The point in choosing the bear in the hypothetical scenario is that women have felt so uncomfortable around men for so long, that it's almost preferable to risk the bear than risk the man. It's making a statement about how women feel they're being treated by too many men every day.
Maybe listen to the women who say they choose the bear, they're telling you something is wrong with how they're treated.
And the worst part is that some men's reactions prove the women's points
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/man-vs-bear-debate-reactions/
https://medium.com/@SpencerGall/man-vs-bear-how-are-so-many-men-missing-the-point-0345d4c2de0f
The self-awareness of those guys is non-existent. How can you be so obtuse as to fall into the exact behavior you're being called out on?
It baffles me
The bear or man meme thing made me realize a lot of people don't seem to have passed 10th grade English. They get so caught up in like the literal evaluation of the text and don't even think about the subtext or deeper meaning. They probably think Dracula is just a story about a dude that bites people, and star trek is just about space ships.
I just find it amusing that a kid is spouting out a common sense answer but dad is like "well ackshually"
Yes I know why women pick bear
But I also know the actual correct answer is man, if we are taking this situation literally, lol. I grew up on the east slopes of the rockies, I've been charged by a grizzly, yeah no thanks on that shit
Can't believe you're getting downvoted for being rational. These people are unhinged with their misandry.
A 13 year old child doesn't have this level of terminally online brain rot yet and hasn't yet forgotten that bears are our natural predators
Which makes me wonder about your gender...
Weird
FYI, this user was sharing the racist ass incel "men prefer the bear because it's brown, tall and abandons their children" image in threads about man or bear.
Food for thought if you think they are making a good point here (they aren't).
LMAO
Pick a lane, you're pre accusing me of something you are actively doing. Beyond me how you wrote those two lines back to back without realizing the irony.
Yup. You check all the boxes. Like I said, predictable AF.
Being a man isn't a choice, it's a characteristic. You being a misandrist is a perfectly cognizant choice.
But there's no point arguing with you anyway because you're not here to listen, you're here to feel morally superior as if you had some sort of point 😂. I'd love to see you pick in real time between me, a 5'8" scrawny man and a bear, still pick the bear, and get mauled, and still not get the irony of your misandry as it happens.
This is less a discussion, more just you ranting at a strawman. So okay, whatever.
You win. You beat the words that you put in my mouth.
Good job? Idc.
You can go read the full thread of that in the mod history, the image perfectly proves that misandry is ok on here but racism is not, if you think I literally stand by that meme then there's nothing I can do about that lol
Actually I remember debating you on that, you just hate men
You should stop spending your time looking for threads about men as a vehicle to say inflammatory whataboutism and instead consult with a therapist why you are so inflamed by the evidence of patriarchy. You're literally in a thread about a scientific study of how prevalent the problem is, but all you see is misandry.
Doing the first can't possibly be making you happy, probably a frustrating angry way to live. However getting to the heart of your gender insecurity and defensiveness has a chance at actually producing better results for your life.
Edit: The fact that you think I just hate men really underlines my point.
A bear is more dangerous than a man, full stop, there's nothing further to it than that lol
I wouldn’t say guys wanting to fuck equals an ugly world.
"Guys wanting to fuck" because they did a woman a favor is the issue.
How would you like it if every time someone did you a favor, they not only expected sex in return, but treated you like shit if you turned them down?
I guarantee you plenty of women on Lemmy can tell you stories about that happening to them more than once.