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Interesting that that opening fight had both knives and blood - I think there was a time (before Andor) where both those things weren't really allowed in Star Wars. It felt like nothing that came after really lived up to that. Episode 2 had two writers, joined by the word 'and' rather than an ampersand, meaning that they worked on it separately, which doesn't bode well (the last time I saw that for a TV show was Secret Invasion, and that was rubbish).
It's okay, good enough to keep watching. It looks like it's getting review-bombed though, so there must be something about it that's upset people.
Also, as soon as my stupid brain heard that a character was called Osha, it didn't stop thinking about Star Wars Health and Safety violations:
Is it because the main character is a black woman? I have a feeling it might be.
I say this as a white dude: I don't care if there is never another white male main character in Star Wars again. Everyone who cares can see themselves out of the fandom and leave it to those of us who just genuinely love Star Wars.
Probably.
At one point, Yord mentions her mothers, so I wondered if it was that was part of it too. Female show runner, too, of course. I could probably delve into YouTube and see what's stirred the bigots up, but I'd rather not get depressed finding out.
Sadly you're right, I've watched the beginning of three different 'critiques' on YouTube, and all of their first points are summed up by 'oh no, it's multiple women in major roles'. And at least one of them didn't like that Amandla Stenberg is non-binary.
I for one like the first episode. Especially how they made clear that the politics and public perception of them is the jedi's utmost priority, which might help explain the downfall of the jedi order in the prequels.
There is nothing in the show that indicates the character is non-binary, which if it did fuck anyone who cares, but they are a freaking actor. Who they are in real life doesn't matter. Did they act well? Good fucking job, the end.
If you hadn't mentioned it, I'd never have known. Or thought to inquire.
Star Wars can be brutal when the production feels like it. I was still taken a little out of how overchoreographed the fights seemed, with many moments of total dramatic pauses seemingly so the character could again leap into a sudden action. I want the fight style to break out of this particular strange stylization.
Ha. Fair enough. I'm still of the view that there was some kind of 'no knives' rule until recently.
Oh no. I can't think of any small knives showing up in the original trilogy (there were spears, axes, and other melee weapons though), but I don't think that was out of any kind of ban.
In a lot of legends material, there are knifes being used. In the Thrawn books, which are some of the establishing EU, an officer under Thrawn has his throat slit in front of the crew. Visual depictions of knives, especially vibroblades could be found in games like Knights Of The Old Republic, and Republic Commando.
Yeah, I think you're right. And I've played KOTOR fairly recently too. I might just be misremembering something from a podcast.
This is off topic but your profile picture of an Ian Banks cover looks like a very dramatic Jedi.
Yeah, on some level, I think that's always been part of the appeal of it - I've used it for ages.
Perhaps, though we mustn’t forget the first movie shows Luke’s adoptee parents as skeletons on screen and has blood when Obi Wan dismembers that alien in the Mos Eisley canteen.