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submitted 2 months ago by merompetehla@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I was thinking about using graphene OS, but I've read some lemmy users dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising and the pixel 7a you're supposed to install graphene on because it's from google (an advertising company).

Another option would be lineage OS, but there is so much false information about this OS, namely compatible phones that simply don't work with this OS and no support.

what works for you? I want a phone with no google, that doesn't force me to use the manufacturer's ecosystem and that won't show the apps I don't want or need (on an asus I own you cannot neither get rid nor hide bloatware)

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[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

Used pixels are surprisingly cheap for how well they hold up over time, and graphene works well.

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I totally agree. Used pixels are superb with grapheneos. Syncthing is what i use ad a backup. I think the problemi is that google stops releasing updates after 5 yearss old units don't get updates I think. I have the 5th June build and it reports a security update of December 2023.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you don't live in the EU. Here you get a better new phone from xiaomi/motorola/oneplus than a pixel for the same price. Yes, I get grapheneos and relockable bootloader, but used things are too expensive here. If you need a cheap phone, buy a cheap phone (fuck EU's import regulations).

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago

I don't know what you are on about, but if brand-new Pixels are too expensive for you (although their price is uniformed to the US one), you can easily find them second-hand.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For example at a time where my Pixel 7 was available for 500$ (466€) in the USA + 100$ trade in (93€) for my Galaxy S8 = 400$ = 373€ it still was 620€ in Austria on Amazon, the only way to buy it because Google did not offer it through their Google store here and normal stores didn't go below 650€. I could've gotten 20€ trade in for my old phone = 600€. 60% more than in the USA at the same time.

Used market basically didn't exist because Pixels generally were a bit overpriced

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago

Doesn't it seem that this problem is caused by Google not operating the markets in the same way?

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, but Persen's point still stands.

(And Pixels also have way less features here, the only advantage they give is access to GrapheneOS, great camera and AI photo editing)

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago
[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

US-only:

Call screening

Hold for me

Direct my call

Wait times

Call transcription

Answering calls with text to speech

Emergency calls on crash

English-only:

Speaker labels for Google recorder transcripts

Google recorder transcripts generally don't work well in other languages, but at least the option to get a subpar transcript exists

Probably missed some

[-] Persen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

That's the point. You can't import anything to EU without paying a 20% import tax +-5€ depending on the import. This makes the used device market prices in EU inflated.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why would you import used devices from the US in the first place? People sell them in Europe too.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Most of the market was from UK (where we all know what happened) plus taxing imports inflated the EU market.

Which generation would you recommend? As used.

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

I like the 7. IIRC, the 6 had reliability issues, and the 5 was only available in a smaller size.

[-] 01011@monero.town 3 points 2 months ago

I've been using a 6 since it's release, it's been solid for me. The 7 is slightly sleeker/smaller but they're almost identical in performance.

[-] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

7a would be the best balance between cod and expected support timeframe

[-] sunstoned@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago

I miss my pixel 5 :(

[-] TheDarkQuark@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

If you want updates, may be go for gen 6/7. 5a won't be receiving updates after August 2024.

See: https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2024
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