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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by doublepepperoni@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

Just this week in Vantaa, Finland three 12-year-old girls piled onto one of those electric scooters you subscribe to with an app and proceeded to get run over by a car at a crossing, killing one of them

The app is supposed to have an age restriction but it's easy to bypass and you're not supposed to have more than one person riding on one, which people routinely ignore

I hate seeing kids and teens speeding around dangerously on those fucking things and then just leaving them laying around on high-traffic bike routes because they don't give a shit since they treat the scooters as completely disposable

Fucking awful bazinga-brained Silicon Valley-ass idea and business model. Actually, there are also bikes you can use with an app but curiously you don't see kids doing reckless shit with those, almost as if electric scooters were uniquely terrible thonk

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[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

It really seems like your complaints are about kids doing kid shit but you know that is stupid so you launder them through complaints about newfangled contraptions

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

My main issue here is the business model, not the e-scooter itself

I think easy access to essentially disposable motor vehicles incentivises stupid behaviour. If these were their own scooters I assume they'd treat them with more respect

[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

lol you don't interact with kids very much do you

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Would they leave their e-scooters blocking random streets though

[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

We can agree this is an issue, but in my area at least this is also a large problem with the dockless rental bikes.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Where I live I've seen a couple of abandoned rental bikes but typically people seem to use them properly. The people that use them seem to be mostly adults, though whether this is because of the app being more effectively age gated or the bikes being adult-sized, I'm not sure

I also assume a bike is just less attractive for random joyrides

Edit: they're also less available, since you can only get them from docking stations spread around the city that you're also supposed to return them to

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

My main issue here is the business model, not the e-scooter itself

I don't think the e-scooters business model is losing out on 2 paying customers as they pile 3 at a time onto one and then also those customers getting killed. I know they're all run by bazinga tech companies but even that one's too far

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