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[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Is it authoritarian to redistribute land and goods equitably?

[-] rocci@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I don't think so? Maybe I'm off-base, but I was literally just trying (and failing) to understand the article yogthos had sent me.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

What part of that short article are you struggling with in particular?

[-] rocci@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 months ago

I just threw it into chatgpt, I think I understand now. It's basically saying that some level of authority is necessary for society to function (which I wouldn't have argued against otherwise).

Regardless, I admit my original comment was pretty ignorant as I assumed a majority of them were from Stalinist Russia and the dates are clearly after that. I can take my original comment down or just leave it up for posterity sake.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

I think people jump to "Read On Authority" to quickly, a behavior that amounts to scripture-quoting, but

I just threw it into chatgpt, I think I understand now. It's basically saying that some level of authority is necessary for society to function (which I wouldn't have argued against otherwise).

chatgpt sucks and has demonstrated that again here. On Authority essentially argues that a socialist revolution 1: is itself a monumental exercise of authority and 2: requires authority to be protected when it exists in a world fundamentally hostile to it. There are some ancillary arguments about command structures, but overall it is written in opposition to anarchist dogmatism about "Authority" being an evil thing that must be discarded.

I'll let someone else unpack the "Stalinist Russia" part

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Did you know that Stalin tried to resign on multiple occasions but was pressured to continue serving his office?

I have plenty of critiques of the USSR but people that assume it was some sort of dictatorship of Stalin and not a dictatorship of the proletariat are gravely miseducated.

It's not your fault though we in the west are born into an ocean of anticommunist propaganda.

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