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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

In what universe isn't disapproval of Israels actions opposition to genocide?? That's literally what they're doing that people disapprove of!

At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

Some people still incorrectly think that Israel isn't inherently a genocidal apartheid state, so they want to support them in general, but want the genocide to stop.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

Okay, let me remind you of what started this little conversation. The other guy saying

I bet most would vote to end genocide

So you wanna explain how

At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

Groks with that?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yes. Most people want to vote for the outcomes that they prefer and most people want the genocide to end. Ergo most people would vote for an end to the genocide if given the opportunity.

In the minds of these people aiding Israel will either stop the genocide or not necessarily have an effect on it. They're wrong, but still against the genocide.

It's simple logic that REALLY shouldn't be so hard for you to understand.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Yes. Most people want to vote for the outcomes that they prefer and most people want the genocide to end. Ergo most people would vote for an end to the genocide if given the opportunity.

In the minds of these people aiding Israel will either stop the genocide or not necessarily have an effect on it. They’re wrong, but still against the genocide.

So under that logic, Biden, who has expressed opposition to the ongoing operations but continued funding it, is also anti-genocide in the same vein that these voters are.

You'll have to forgive me for not finding that a very 'anti-genocide' or 'changing what we're currently doing' stance.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Biden, who has expressed opposition

Wagging his finger once in a while when an especially horrific atrocity becomes public does nothing when he's simultaneously sending them the weapons used to commit the atrocities and saying that he'll be on their side no matter what.

the ongoing operations

Holy minimizing language, Batman! Committing genocide and other crimes against humanity on a daily basis is not your standard "operations". Implying as much makes you sound like you're in favor of it or at the very least don't think it's anywhere near as bad as it is.

[Biden] is also anti-genocide

Nope. He's literally an active participant in the genocide who has vowed not to stop.

You'll have to forgive me for not finding that a very 'anti-genocide' or 'changing what we're currently doing' stance.

Sure, I'll forgive you for being as dense as a neutron star if you stop demonstrating over and over that you're suffering from a very severe case of the Dunning Kruger effect.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Wagging his finger once in a while when an especially horrific atrocity becomes public does nothing when he’s simultaneously sending them the weapons used to commit the atrocities and saying that he’ll be on their side no matter what.

Okay, so literally JUST like the people you're saying are opposed to genocide but support continuing aid.

Great. We're done here.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Okay, so literally JUST like the people you're saying are opposed to genocide but support continuing aid.

Nope. They're not active participants in the genocide.

Great. We're done here.

That we agree on. Have the day you deserve.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Nope. They’re not active participants in the genocide.

Cute. They just support the continuing participation in the genocide. Much better.

this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2024
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