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If there are 9 conservatives and 1 fascist sitting around a table, then there are 10 fascists sitting around that table.
So if there are 9 reformists and 1 fascist sitting around a table, would there be 10 fascists sitting around that table?
This argument is pretty dumb. If we follow this logic then American liberals are Marxist because American Marxists tend to support the DNC more often than not... But that's obviously not true, and American liberals don't support such an evil ideology.
If we follow the logic in a different route and assume that 9 racists are sitting on a table with a civil rights activist, they're all civil rights activists... But that doesn't sound right, does it?
Let's try another attempt, if 10 world leaders are in a conference somewhere. Of those leaders, 9 are liberals from democratic countries and one is a dictator, does that make all 10 of them dictators? Of course not.
The issue with this type of argument is that it's based on guilt by association, not even that actually, it's more of guilt by proximity. This is a logical fallacy for all the reasons stated in this article:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy
Let's not bring back guilt by association and doom ourselves back to the dark ages due to virtue signaling and ignorance. People should be looked as individuals and judged for their own beliefs.
False analogy is false. Fascism is not Marxism. In particular, very few Marxists would be willing to murder you for power, but all fascists would.
This is not what was said. I'll rephrase it.
Since 9 conservatives sitting around table with 1 right-winger makes all of them right-wingers, will 9 conservatives sitting around table with 1 leftist makes all of them leftists?
No. Leftists aren't fascists and aren't analogous to fascists.
Wow, manipulative. I never said that leftists are fascists. I called fascists right-wingers.
Why no? Or you want to say that group of leftists and conservatives becomes group of conservatives?
Wow, dense. You can't just replace "fascists" with some other ideology and expect it to make sense. Fascists are monsters and anyone who works with them is a monster, too.
Actually I would argue that Marxism is even worse than fascism because Fascist know they're evil and own it, but Marxists know they're evil but pretend they're humanitarians. It's pretty sick. Also, looking at the theory of the ideology, it is inherently violent. This is reflected in history as tens of millions ended up being killed as a direct result Marxist violence and persecution in 20th century alone.
Oh, you're one of them. Can't say I'm surprised.
Someone who isn't historically illiterate? I'm not surprised either. Most people who aren't tend to view Marxism for the evil that it was.
Well, you've kinda shown your hand by conflating a socio-economic theory with multiple political ideologies.
Marxism is a full fledged ideology. That's just objective fact. You can't erase what it is or what happened because of it.