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[-] darkmarx@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I get why people are upset by the headline. It is written to provoke anger. Unfortunately, anger at the wrong issue.

I understand the argument that a large company can absorb the cost of workers they don't currently. Though it's unrealistic to expect them too.

I lived in the Quad Cities for a number of years. A large majority of people I know, both family and friends, worked for either Deere or Case IH - until they closed the plant in East Moline.

Layoffs are a yearly thing. Deere, Case, Caterpillar, they all hire a bunch of people in the beginning of the year and lay them off towards the end. It's typically around August or September, and they announce it in July. Everyone in the Quad Cities knows it. It is expected. Sometime early next year, they are going to hire these jobs back. The people who take these jobs go into it knowing this is going to happen.

It can suck being let go and some people might struggle with it. Those who are used to this cycle treat it as a well-paying seasonal job. Many already have something else lined up. This is only a single, anecdotal, data point, so take it with a grain of salt... one of my uncles works for Deere and is a bus driver for one of the school districts. He knows Deere is going to let him go by fall so he has the driving job for the rest of the year. In spring, he will go back to Deere.

Perspective is also important. Deere has somewhere between 80k and 85k employees. They are laying off < 1000 based on this story. That's the equivalent of a small, 80 person company hiring 1 person to get through the holiday season, then laying them off in January. Next year, they will do it again.

Headlines like this are nothing more than a distraction from real issues. For example, why does any company have multi-billions of dollars in profit to begin with? It just means they are charging more than they need to. The farmers who buy Deere equipment then have to charge more for their produce. Which means the stores have to charge more. Which means we pay more for our food. Deere's profits are leading to higher food prices for everyone. To me, that is more of an issue than 1/80th of their workforce being in a hire/layoff cycle.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 68 points 1 week ago

Here's the deal: these people aren't being laid off because the company is losing money, they are being laid off because the company is not making as much money as it predicted it would last quarter.

Now, not making as much money as you thought while still being profitable is not a bad thing except for one person: the c-level executive.

The c-level has profit targets he needs to hit to unlock a huge bonus. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are at stake for him, that one individual.

So these hundreds of people aren't losing their jobs so the company can thrive and be healthy. They're losing their jobs so one person can make hundreds of thousands of dollars more on top of their existing salary which was always guaranteed to them.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

WHOOPS I didn't mean to reply to you lol, just to the post.

If anyone hasn't watched the latest wendover productions video I highly recommend it.

It covers John deere's transition into a technology company and details why they're laying off a lot of their factory workers. Link

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