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Thursday’s presidential debate debacle — widely regarded as a low point for President Joe Biden, who appeared feeble and sometimes confused — many Democratic elites and nonpartisan pundits are suggesting a break-the-glass-in-case-of-emergency move that resided on the margins of conventional political thought just a week ago: The incumbent president, they argue, should step aside in the interest of the country, and delegates should name his replacement at the upcoming Democratic National Convention.

Any move to replace Biden just four months before the election carries considerable risk. The party can ill afford to pass over its sitting vice president, Kamala Harris, who represents a core Democratic constituency as a Black woman — but Harris consistently underperforms in polling. And allowing delegates to make such a momentous decision, negating the will of millions of primary voters and turning a nomination process that has been the norm for decades upside-down, is surely a recipe for division and rancor.

But it’s not like we haven’t been here before. On March 31, 1968, Lyndon B. Johnson stunned the nation when he announced that he was pulling out of that year’s presidential election. The Democratic National Convention that followed several months later devolved into chaos and violence and left the party’s eventual nominee, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, hobbled at the start of the fall campaign season. He ultimately lost a painfully close election to Richard Nixon, in no small part because of the unruly convention in Chicago.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These kinds of posts are actively harming our chances of avoiding a fascist take over. Can you not? The convicted felon was just listed even more times on the infamous pedophiles private docs, is there not an article about that you can post? gotta make sure everyone keeps talking about how an old man had an old man moment. An old man that's helping the IRS go after the 1%, helping the EPA regulate carbon emissions, helping medicare lower drug prices, helping student loan borrowers reduce their burden, helping fucking Ukraine while it defends itself against the soft-launch of WWIII... I'm sure there's more I'm missing.

I'll vote for a corpse over fucking fascism. Biden passing would mean a strong black woman gets put in charge, and however much I disagree with some of her positions, I would take almost any black woman over drumpf. 99% chance of them being 1000x better for working families than the convicted felon pedophile rapist.

[-] Steve@communick.news 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That makes sense if you believe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump.

The all the polls say he won't.

But even if Biden is the chosen one and beats Trump, he can't run in 2028 while Trump surely will. What then? Biden was our only hope, and he's not an option anymore.

No. This idea of Biden or bust is wrong. I'm sure lots of people could beat Trump. They'd just do it by embracing progressive populism against conservative populism. But the Democratic elite are very much against that.

That's because, Progressive populism is very much against the ownership class, which both parties depend on. Conservative populism on the other hand, is largely a tool of the ownership class.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

There’s also never a suggestion of a candidate that can pull off a win with a four month campaign in any of the articles calling for Biden to step down. It’s not constructive criticism. Without a proposed solution, it’s just condemnation.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It looks like Trump's involvement with the Epstein docs has been completely blacklisted by the U.S.

This is where I found a story- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/before-marrying-melania-in-2005-what-new-documents-claim-about-trump-epstein/articleshow/111465121.cms

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

Trump is likely going to win, the sooner you accept that the sooner you stop whining that people are engaging in civil discussion over a massive fucking mistake waiting to happen: running a feeble old guy who is likely to pop his clogs soon, who voters will avoid because of his poor performance in front of millions of people.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

We’re not having discussion for discussion’s sake. We want a new candidate so that Trump’s win isn’t actually an eventuality.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Indeed. If a candidate cannot stand up to some online scrutiny, I can't see there being much hope.

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