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[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 43 points 1 week ago

Why doesn't Biden just have Trump and the conservative SC judges shot for treason? It'd be an "official act" and therefore OK according to conservatives, after all. It'd make the world in general a better place, and also help stop the US sliding (further…) into fascism

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm getting tired of hearing these "Why doesn't Biden just be a despot to stop another despot?" knee-jerk takes. Even as a joke, it's not helping. Once you stoop to your enemy's level, is there a difference anymore? Think about the kind of precedent that sets. As a country, can you even come back from that? We'd be trading one very dark path for another.

We have a system of checks and balances that can be used, assuming we elect people who aren't part of the problem.

People need to get the fuck out and vote. Every election, every office, school board seat, dogcatcher, etc. Got friends who don't vote? Try to get at least one of them to. Yeah, gerrymandering exists but it doesn't hold a candle to voter apathy when it comes to damage done.

Glad to know I'm getting downvoted because I don't support becoming the very thing we're supposedly fighting against.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Too late for this high road bullshit.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I stand by my original statement. Once you abandon your core values and stoop to your enemy's level, is there a difference anymore?

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah, there is. Many lives are at stake. It’s a trolley problem. Shit’s ugly and you can’t wish it away.

[-] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At some point you have to make a choice. Either grab a hose to help put out the fire and fix things or you stand on your high ground, praising yourself for how noble your intentions are as everything around you burns.

High roading only works if your opponent has a conscience and can understand guilt. The side that is playing with matches and gasoline this whole time has shown very much that they do not have one.

And to address your original point, yes there very much is a difference. One side is doing things for tye sake of hurt others or progressing a goal that is downright evil and tyrannical. Your doing it to protect the people they're trying to hurt and to oppose their tyranny.

Will it be clean? No... but anything worth fighting for has never been clean. The world isn't just black and white. And the idea that stooping to anothers level makes you the same as them is about as binary as you can get. The world is filled with nuance and a whole range of colors that needs to be observed

[-] ptz@dubvee.org -4 points 1 week ago

We have every right to defend ourselves with whatever means are necessary, but we do not strike first.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Christ. You don’t even realize we’ve already been struck over and over. All the while inviting more.

The only way we can get to a neutral position is tit for tat. We can try a generous tit for tat, but the degenerates won’t accept an olive branch.

Shit isn’t as it seems to you.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Once you completely ignore the paradox of tolerance, you are already on an inevitable path to a fascist dictatorship.

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