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I think this election proves we need two major changes:
PR so everyone is equally represented whether we like them or not.
Australian style mandatory voting. My betting is that a lot of people who would have voted labour this election stayed home because of how much the media showed it was on the bag for labour.
This combination can lead to donkey voting.
Hahah, that is… well, terrifying.
While I don’t believe in disenfranchising people, how do you deal with the voters who are literally too dumb to understand the process…?
I had to deal with a lady at work a few days back who couldn't understand how a very basic loyalty scheme worked and accused our company of being misleading. I so wanted to tell her that she was literally the only customer I've ever spoken to who couldn't grasp such a simple concept.
Some people really are dumb. It's a miracle that they've made it so far in life without accidentally killing themselves or something.
I think it really depends on which loyalty scheme you're referring to. I was in Tesco today and the club card pricing is highly visible, in comparison to the actual pricing. It felt pretty misleading when I got to the checkout
Just let them donkey vote. Who cares.
The point is almost everyone participates.
In the latest general election there was a constituency decided by fifteen votes. And several decided by less than 100.
Terrifying to think an MP could be elected because their name was Aaron A Aaronson rather than their party or reputation or policies and some goobers just wanted to play at being a functional member of society…
With votes that close there's plenty of luck involved in other ways. The weather, tv schedule etcetera.
It's definitely a problem, but it's not preclusive.
The alternative is equally terrifying - just a third of voters being the majority in the brexit referendum is unconsciable.
Surely this can be solved by randomizing the order they appear on the ballot for each person? Then the impact would be negligable
Two easy fixes, random orders on the ballots. Or the top option is always "None of the below".
That's not a PR thing. I vote PR with a single vote. So no donkey voting possible.
It might be possible with STV. Like in Ireland. It depends on the ballot form I guess.