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Are we talking about Trump now? Man I wish I could keep track of senile old bastards. Because my senile old bastards are yelling incoherent crap and not actually in the conversation.
As a matter of fact, we are talking about Trump. Any halfway decent 45-57 year old candidate will easily show Trump's advanced age and cognitive decline. But we don't get to run that race, because our candidate sounds like Grandpa did, the year before we put him in a nursing home.
This fucking narrative of bringing up trump every time someone questions Biden as a candidate is so fucking obnoxious.
We all know trump is senile and fucking insane. His voters are insane. We're talking about wether or not Biden is the best candidate to defeat him. Not everyone agrees with the narrative that swapping candidates right now is a bad idea.
You're obnoxious with not accepting that both things can exist simultaneously.
Unfortunately no. I wish. But all the wishing in the world doesn't change the position.
So what's the play, if Republicans aren't sane enough to remove their geriatric, why should we guarantee his victory by forcing out ours without his consent.
Well, I don't know that it's even possible to force Biden out without his consent. Certainly, it would be prohibitively difficult and contentious. Still, "If the GOP isn't doing it, why should we?" is a terrible argument, by any metric. The line of reasoning that says Biden should step aside, and support another nominee, looks like this:
It looks increasingly like he's going to lose.
If he loses, the country will—based on available evidence—likely descend into a pure kleptocracy, with fascistic and theocratic tendencies.
Based on his own statements, he doesn't fully grasp, or properly weigh, the consequences of losing this election. He'll feel fine about losing, as long as he does his best.
Given the above, maybe we'd be better off with someone else.
I'll stipulate that I was on the #binarychoice train myself until recently. The sad fact is, he's just that bad. And it's not too late to change course.
It's entirely likely Biden is trailing in polls because of the Democrats or others with ulterior motives reiterating that Biden should step aside that he is suffering in the polls.
Anyone who realizes the danger of Trump and project 2025 should be more than willing to say "I wish Biden would choose to step aside, but given the alternative I would vote for Biden's bloated corpse if I had to over Trump."
How about we listen to Bernie, or think a little harder, and show a little bit of solidarity for the only other current option. It's not about defending Biden despite his failings, it's about not holding him to standards his opponent doesn't have to adhere to.
If we need a candidate that isn't slowly losing their mental acuity to old age, Democrats AND Republicans need to come together and ask their respective geriatrics to resign together. Mutual adherence to the same standard, for the sake of the country.
The Republican geriatric is leading the Democrat in the polls. Why would they show him the door? If Democrats continue this Biden route Trump will just win.
Oh, I just thought we'd treat them the same. Ya know, instead of this classic Democrat ploy of attempting to ensure a defeat.
Why is it always Democrats that have to hold their politicians to a higher bar than Republicans. How about we have some solidarity for the best chance we have at not living in a fascist shithole for once?
Demcrats don't have morals or standards they're running a guy complicit in Genocide. What do you even mean dude??
That's another example of what I'm talking about. Why is it exactly we're paying attention to just Biden over that failing, when Trump is chomping at the bit to murder Palestinians, and both Democrats and Republicans alike are complicit in this genocide.
Fuck them both, but how about we not pave the way for the guy that also wants American citizens dead? Either they both mutually resign, or this is disingenuous bullshit.
No you're saying something entirely differing stop changing the subject.
Nope, same shit. Treat them the same. They're voting for their enthusiastic genocidal maniac that also wants you dead. The least you can do is vote for your only real choice, your apologetic genocidal maniac that doesnt want you dead. Wish it werent this way in our political system, but it is.
Do you want to continue this pointless conversation?