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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Do we live in a democracy or not? How come not voting for biden is the same as voting for trump, but not voting for trump isn't the same as voting for biden? So how about if our democratically elected representatives don't represent our interests, we DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM? Is that too much to ask for in a supposed democracy?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It lowers the bar for Trump/DeSantis to take a "likely democratic voter" and have them not vote. It's like playing a sport and purposefully NOT taking a free shot on goal. It's not quite the same as scoring for the other team, but it's also not "nothing" since it makes it easier for the other team than it would have been.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Sure but this "sport" has more than 2 teams, and also 100million more participants then who you are focusing on. I'd say that participating in the minor distraction of the two teams competing to see who can get the most money from lobbyists is probably the worst thing you can do.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Sure but this “sport” has more than 2 teams

No. No it does not.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

In first past the post there will only be two teams, but fortunately you do not need to vote for the Capitalists. You should not vote for the Capitalist, and if you do vote for them you are a bad person.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

If you choose not to participate or not to vote you deserve the government you get.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Vote for the solution, and that means never voting for R or D.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Vote for any of the options on the ballot. You won't find anyone but R and D though. But pick one - and stop the petulant whining. Change comes through voting - not by bitching.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He needs to be primaried, tradition or not.

He's done an assortment of good things. He's also older and sympathetic to economic "centrism."

I'd like to see a credible democratic challenger primary him and force him to maintain a more left leaning posture. If done correctly, he'd re-message and it would help him in the general.

We need to pull people out of their culture war mindset and get them voting for their own best interests. Fanciful notions of "the wrong gender" in a restroom aren't going to matter as much as domestic economic health, global climate change, or a changing geo-economic outlook. We need people voting real-worl issues and someone who can message to that.

I'll add: everyone deserves certain fundamental rights. So when I say culture war, I'm referring to DeSantis types. I have no quarrel with treating LGBTQ+ with respect and decency.

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