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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They gave Boeing the contract despite their obvious lack of experience in the area. There should be a forensic accounting, including any decision maker's finances, about this whole deal

The US Federal Government would be best served by ARMIES of independent accountants doing audits of all its business, and issuing CRIMINAL CHARGES for all fraud, graft, and corruption, wherever it's found.

Make it scary to give favors for bribes.

[-] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"lack of experience in the area..."

Boeing dwarfs SpaceX in experience building spacecraft.

Mercury and Gemini spacecraft were both built by the McDonnell Corp. That company merged with the Douglas Aircraft company (which built the 3rd stage of the Saturn V rocket) becoming McDonnell Douglas in 1967, which merged into Boeing in 1997. Boeing itself co-manufactured the space shuttle orbiters with Rockwell.

On paper and judging from experience and history, if you were going to pick a single company to build a spacecraft, it would be them. Not some brand new company run by a space-obsessed software engineer.

Clearly Boeing has huge cultural issues and has for a while.

Just saying if you wanted to go off experience alone, they're the best there is.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

A company doesn't have experience. people have experience.
I can't imagine that the current Boeing would have kept the spaceflight experts on staff while not being used, so I don't imagine that they had any expertis when they began the project.

Likewise neither did NASA, because neoliberal policy had gutted them for much the same reasons, and is why they are pursuing the commercial space program.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

You're right, I didn't realize all the merging that had occurred.

But clearly that legacy is gone. IDK who to trust with big space projects these days; it isn't Amazon, SpaceX, or Boeing.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

What commercial programs are supposed to do is have multiple competing companies. NASA doesn't want to rely on SpaceX or Boeing alone, or even NASA's own rocket building programs.

What we've gotten is:

  • NASA's rocket building program is an overpriced/overschedule boondoggle
  • Boeing needs to be taken out back and shot for the good of both space and atmospheric flight
  • SpaceX is fine for getting to LEO and the ISS
  • Russian Soyuz is a political land mine, and Russian manufacturing practices have gone to shit
  • Nobody else is fully capable at the moment

There's some up and commers around. Most will fail. Maybe one will work out and this will get back on track. It shouldn't just be SpaceX.

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