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submitted 4 months ago by whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Is this for real? I can't draw no other conclusion than US defaultism in trans activism gives a free pass to TERF politics in Europe. This kind of news from Germany cannot mean anything good.

According to Wikipedia:

In 2019, the German Language Association VDS (Verein Deutsche Sprache; not to be confused with the Association for the German Language Gesellschaft für deutsche Sprache, GfdS) launched a petition against the use of the gender star, saying it was a "destructive intrusion" into the German language and created "ridiculous linguistic structures". It was signed by over 100 writers and scholars.[11] Luise F. Pusch, a German feminist linguist, criticises the gender star as it still makes women the 'second choice' by the use of the feminine suffix.[12] In 2020, the Gesellschaft für deutsche Sprache declared Gendersternchen to be one of the 10 German Words of the Year.[13]

In 2023, the state of Saxony banned the use of gender stars and gender gaps in schools and education, which marks students' use of the gender stars as incorrect.[14][15] In March 2024, Bavaria banned gender-neutral language in schools, universities and several other public authorities.[16][17] In April 2024, Hesse banned the use of gender neutral language, including gender stars, in administrative language.[18]

Here are the original Wikipedia references

  1. "Der Aufruf und seine Erstunterzeichner". Verein Deutsche Sprache (in German). 6 March 2019. Retrieved 5 April 2020.
  2. Schlüter, Nadja (22 April 2019). ""Das Gendersternchen ist nicht die richtige Lösung"". Jetzt.de (in German). Retrieved 5 April 2020. "GfdS Wort des Jahres" (in German). Retrieved 13 December 2020.
  3. Jones, Sam; Willsher, Kim; Oltermann, Philip; Giuffrida, Angela (2023-11-04). "What's in a word? How less-gendered language is faring across Europe". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-04-05.
  4. "Schools in Saxony are forbidden to use gender language". cne.news. Retrieved 2024-04-05.

I got into this rabbit hole from this news article

News article in German

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As a person regularly writing regular expressions, the usage of * in a written language rubs me the wrong way. I wouldn't mind Mitarbeiter/innen, similar to how Czech does it (prodavač/ka, although some are impossible to shorten like skladník/skladnice, as skladník/ce sounds too weird, much like Krankenschwester*innen would).

[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago

regularly writing regular expressions

The statement speaks for itself.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 points 4 months ago

Krankenschwesterinnen

Der Begriff ist eh obsolte, ist nun Krankenpfleger.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

I think you mean Krankenpfleger*in

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 4 points 4 months ago

I think you mean Krankenpfleger

I have the "Binnen-I be gone" extension install :(

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Drats, my plan is foiled!

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Auch, wenn es sich um Kategorie abartige Kostüme handelt?

(Ist "abartig" das richtige Wort? Der Übersetzungsdienst, den ich normal verwende, bietet etwas anderes an.)

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 months ago

I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if those words are the reason for the * being included on the keyboard in the first place 😅

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Multiplication. It's why it's on the numpad.

Also, normal non-technical text also never uses these keyboard characters @^\|_ ` but they are there. If the computer keyboard was designed for proper typography, there would be keys for nbsp, curly quotes or the em dash.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 months ago

Wouldn't it make more sense just to use × instead if that was the case? I guess maybe it makes it easier to differentiate it from x?

I guess it's probably just a hold over from typewriters that ended up setting the standard for computers e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2741

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Wouldn't it make more sense just to use × instead if that was the case? I guess maybe it makes it easier to differentiate it from x?

This right here is the exact reason, especially because x is frequently used as a variable which may be sitting directly nex to ×.

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