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submitted 4 months ago by timestatic@feddit.org to c/memes@lemmy.world

For more context: I already had the communism and lefty communites blocked. I'd consider myself middle-left of the political spectrum but personally don't believe in some grand revolution saving us all. Most left communities on here seem to far out there for my personal taste at least. My comment is deleted but if you wanna see the post here's the link.

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[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 months ago

So you block everything you don't like, but you complain that people block you when they don't like what you have to say? You do see the irony here right?

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 27 points 4 months ago

There's no irony there. There's a difference between curating your own experience and others forcing censorship on you.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People can curate the experience they want on their community as well. Same thing really. They don't have to content with low quality post that calls them in question with no substance over and over again.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah. My sympathies lie with OP, but communities should be able to unapologetically curate their vibe.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wish you’d differentiate between instance and community. I didn’t just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation. I mean I guess I don't mind that much in retrospect but it did mildly annoy me since I like commenting and lemmy doesn't have that much content to begin with compared to the likes of reddit.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

lol. You were blocked because they didn't like your comment was getting upvotes? Idk, buddy. Good riddance, I'd say. I understand about the lack of content, though.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That applies to instances, too - they should be also free to curate their own vibes, including saying "you are not welcome here". Nobody here is entitled to the usage of an instance.

The problem with lemmy .ml is on another level: transparency. Instead of actually telling users what they want/don't want in their instance, like Hexbear for example correctly does, they keep pushing and pulling rule #1 (no bigotry - the reason why you were banned BTW) and rule #2 (be respectful) to justify every single action. It's effectively lying to the users.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

I agree with you and think if an instance communicates clearly what they are and what they want then I have no problem.

BTW how do you no the reason why I'm supposedly banned when I don't even know that.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

BTW how do you no the reason why I’m supposedly banned when I don’t even know that.

Modlog.

It's weird to think about it. It's a great transparency tool, and yet made by the same group that struggles to handle users in a transparent way.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's actually a cool thing. Never knew this existed. My comment was definitely a bit salty looking back. It's just I didn't find any humor in the post and found this type of post to appear often. Good to know tho, I'll look into it since I'm curious what other type of comments they ban. Still bigotry is a weird claim, since they can't seem to tolerate my opinion. Although that brings up the whole tolerating intolerance topic. I don't think I was being intolerant personally. I just didn't find the satire in the meme.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else though, not just yourself which I think is the distinction.

I don't think it's necessarily a big deal because fortunately Lemmy has lots of instances and communities so if you disagree with one you can just go to another one.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else.

Yes. Everyone else includes me, who's tired of shitlibs posting low quality whining about leftists. One of the main reasons I got off Reddit.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org -3 points 4 months ago

I wish you'd differentiate between instance and community. I didn't just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You do know the modlog is public right? You weren't banned, you're low effort comment was removed. Plus the distinction you're trying to make between community and instance is moot. In fact it's probably truer for an instance, the admins don't have to pay, maintain, and assume some liability for your content if they don't feel like it. They aren't providing a transport layer.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago

Wait I checked and now im just banned from !memes@lemmy.ml but not from lemmy.ml as a whole. My comment wasn't low effort tho. I was just mentioning how I dislike communist violent revolution fantasy getting posted over and over as "memes" when they aren't ironic or satirical.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org -5 points 4 months ago

I block it since I'm not here for revolutionary fantasy. I am not the second biggest lemmy instance. The arguments I've had with people from that community are barely worth my time and I don't feel like seeing this type of content. You can block me, I don't care. Users choose to see by their preference but relevant instances should have coherent rules and not just political agenda by whom they allow and block. That's just my take on that tho!

[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

ml stands for Marxist-Leninist. When anyone is allowed to make their own instance, and instances or users can defederate or block what they don't want to see, why can't an instance be political? That's like saying "no political communities!" Just block them and move on, just as they can do the same. You commented in the memes community of a communist instance and got annoyed that you got banned for being anti-communist. Plenty of instances out there, they don't all need to cater to every person.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Boiler plate comment

Marxist Leninist aren't communists. Or they wouldn't be Marxist Leninist. They do however like to cosplay as communists. Often naming things that aren't communist Communist. While I think the general proletariat were all aspirationally communist. Their leaders and the Vanguard party most certainly were not.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Its just that ml mentions itself being a general lemmy instance. Their description on join-lemmy.org is "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers". I'm a FOSS and privacy enthusiast who likes Lemmy. I just happen to not like communism agenda pushed when I scroll through some memes. I definitely wouldn't say I'm some uncivil person. Sucks for me that ml is the second largest instance and they have the biggest memes community.

[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Sure, if you let it bother you. If you care about the memes that much, ignore the stuff you don't like, if you can't stand it, find one of many other communities. I don't think it's on them, regardless of poor branding, when there's so many other instances. No one is forcing you to engage in the comments of posts you don't like.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

I mean I feel like many or even most memes there are fine, just those few in between are annoying to me. I'm over it but I was still kinda annoyed initially

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I constantly say the same, but one correction on a small fact: Lemmy.ml isn't even close to being the second largest instance (perhaps at one point it was but not anymore).

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list shows the stats, hint sort by Active Users. Lemmy.World with ~80% of all Lemmy users is by far the #1, then lemmynsfw.com, lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, and lemmy.ml is #5.

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