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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

Weird how they always put words like this into the mouths of tankies yet they never seem to muster a screenshot or a link to a comment.

Blue MAGA is wild. As soon as anyone dares breathe a word of criticism of a Democrat, immediately you're a rabid Qanon Trump supporter in their eyes.

"I don't support voting for Kamala, she does not represent my interests or my political beliefs."
"Don't you get it? You need to vote for Kamala to save democracy from Trump, who threatens to destroy it."
"You mean the system where you vote for the candidate who represents your interests?"
"Yes."

These progressives seem so disconnected that I wouldn't be surprised if the irony in that is completely lost on them.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Well they've defederated from anywhere with a dissenting opinion so they have to guess at our opinions.

[-] goferking0 18 points 1 month ago

Except for ml. But they just instinctively down vote or ignore ml

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think it's more that they live in a permanent state of exception since 2016 where they will excuse anything to stop orange man, and are insenced that you don't too.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

They're literally still calling the Gazan genocide a 'single-issue voter' situation.

If Kamala suddenly announced she would eat every newborn child until the next election, would people still vote for her because they don't want to be 'single-issue voters'?

The line has to be drawn somewhere and quite frankly the line started long before genocide.

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

"I don't support voting for Kamala, she does not represent my interests or my political beliefs."

"Oh, so you're saying you need a candidate that 100% aligns with your political beliefs? Sorry, sweaty, but the real world doesn't work that way."smuglord

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

God I hate this response so much.

The Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd seems to think that it's some purity test or a single-issue voter deal. Mostly it's just projection ("I agree with Kamala on everything except her support for the genocide so therefore it's the exact same in your case"/"I'm a single-issue voter and my single-issue is No Trumps")

I'd be inclined to engage with this response when I come across it but I try to remember that I'm not in the business of coaching my ideological opponents in how to refine their tactics. This also goes for misogynists or queerphobes etc. as well.

I think the worst thing that we could do is to yell at progressives for being completely tone deaf and failing to listen to criticisms of the Dems because eventually some of the more savvy and self-aware supporters are going to take this lesson on board and their outreach will shift from "Hold your nose and vote, dammit!!"/"I know what's best for you and I'm going to scold you for not allowing me to dictate what your political beliefs and best interests are!!" into something slicker and more convincing.

As much as it boils my piss on a personal level to constantly hear this kind of rhetoric, ultimately it's to my benefit if they stick to their routine of attempting to whip the voterbase into submission because it's going to make people more disaffected, which is when those people will start looking for alternatives and they'll start seeing these issues as systemic.

Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake and all that.

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