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Is a torus. It has depth. If it was flat, it'd be a circle?
Some folks in here clearly never figured out the toddlers shape-sorting game.
It’s a reference to True Detective which is a reference to Nietzsche. Maybe don’t start insulting people’s intelligence when you don’t even understand the joke
Wanna link to it to help explain the reference?
Nietzsche wrote in Thus Spake Zarathustra: All truth is crooked; time itself is a circle. (this is a translation, so there's various versions)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhZBLUyybo
Basically people here just like Rust and identify with his cynical and jaded outlook, and in our lowest moments agree that we don't want to know anything anymore and history has no justice and truth is crooked. Rust is a cool guy. It's about that simple.
It also dovetails in with Marx's quote about history repeating itself. Once as tragedy, then as farce. History just keeps happening over and over and getting stupider and stupider and nobody is learning anything.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
imagine being such a ackchually nerd you start correcting common sayings that are obviously just stretched out so they sound better. go point out that pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is physically impossible and that having your cake and eat it to is in the wrong order somewhere else.
I have never heard the phrase "a flat circle". Certainly uncommon here. I work in 3d, so this stood out as particularly unusual.
Part of the reason, I think, for the explicit "flatness" of the circle in the meme/line is that time is particularly stuck in endless repetition.
If a circle was not flat, or in other words if it was rising or descending, then it could be said that it is a spiral. A spiral could be ascending or descending, in which case you could say history or time is progressing or degressing. But this implies change and movement. The particular pessimism of the line is that there is no change or end-point to history, no growth or degradation, it is not even as meaningful as any of that, time is simply just stuck in flat repetition.