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[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

way too much text, same warnings as above

I mean a wellpaying, PTO heavy workfromhome job sounds sick but the actual work sounds like hell

it used to be pretty good, imo. we used to have a product manager that would set priorities and i had a good working relationship with him because he would figure out what to do and i and everyone else would figure out how. i would use my superpower of being super critical and detail oriented to figure out requirements etc. then, well, the company did layoffs, the product owner moved to a different job, our designer (who has implied to me that she is probably ND of some kind) is now thrust into the spotlight of product ownership across the whole company while being totally untrained and not wanting to do it (so she doesn't) and imo not really having the skills (neither do I, which is my point), and my boss says that the tech team decides the requirements, so mixed signals everwhere. at least the dumb "steering committee" meetings that i was supposed to be in and were an absolute disaster have been cancelled for like 4 months now. they were hilariously bad. if i hear an exec talk about ROI of fucking internet advertisements again, i'm gonna quit.

Like yeah you are "privileged" but the work is soulsucking, right?

honestly, i think about everyone that is struggling, working much harder jobs than i, or unable to find or keep work. i feel like i have no right to complain when i've basically won the Bullshit Jobs lottery, and i feel awful about it when I think about how much people are struggling to make ends meet.

for instance, if i said any of this to my parents my dad would go knight-nod and my mom would go maybe-later-kiddo "i would love a job like yours."

Those things are cool

yeah, i probably left a few things out, tech has been my earliest and longest running passion, but the tech industry suuuucks now, and it's depressing hearing about all the layoffs happening. every UlyssesT post could be directly from my soul.

I felt this way about my job which was way less bullshit but physically exhausting.

sorry, i feel bad posting about this knowing what you're going through right now ...

I dunno, I don't think it's like morally wrong to take a job that benefits you if you can.

it makes me feel so gross to be deciding how much money people are making, and i feel like i work less hard than the people that work "under" me. i also had to choose someone to lay off early this year... and i have just been not thinking about that. the ease with which i decided who, as well, absolutely disgusts me. she sent a thank you email for all the time i spent with her teaching her things, i have no idea how she is doing or if i fucked up her life.

Do you have orgs or stuff nearby? Could always join one of those if you could make any time?

i mean, we have a few and we've looked into some of them... it's not the biggest "city" here (although it's gotten a lot busier since i last moved here, and the rent is beyond insane with like a 1 bedroom being at like $2200/mo now) but i've seen posters for Fightback/CPC out here. do you know of them? i know one of them is affiliated with the trots, friend of mine was with the YCL for a while until she got too old and then did the CPC, called them a "book club" out here (or maybe that was before she moved here ... everything is kind of a blur lol)

i assume that everyone will all just be younger than me and hate me when they find out what I actually do, or that i won't be able to keep up with the reading. also, last time i volunteered at an organization (it was an orchestra) i ended up on the board within a year, in over my head, did a bad job, burned out, and disappeared off the face of the earth. i'm a little afraid to commit to anything now, and v. afraid of being around groups of people that I don't know... aaaaaa am i just making excuses? madeline-scared

sorry, thank you for the response, i really appreciate it, don't feel bad if i'm too much and don't feel obligated to respond

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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then, well, the company did layoffs,

Fucking classic, sorry your job got absolutely wrecked. That sucks, I'd be fucking pissed if my job got uprooted that way.

i feel like i have no right to complain when i've basically won the Bullshit Jobs lottery,

Okay but the "best" bullshit job is still a bullshit job, and in a capitalist system right?

sorry, i feel bad posting about this knowing what you're going through right now ...

Wtf I am literally relating to you. My job always had me like "My feet hurt I wish I was kissing my wife while posting online and reading gay little books"!!!!!! Smh!!!

every UlyssesT post could be directly from my soul.

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it makes me feel so gross to be deciding how much money people are making, and i feel like i work less hard than the people that work "under" me.

Yeah... this, the layoff stuff, it's pretty fucking ugly and Idk what to tell you. I'd feel fucked up too if I was deciding people's livelihoods.

I have no idea what orgs are, sorry I'm a lib. The new Commie Party Canada iirc is some absurd "no war but the classwar" borderline queerphobic shit that's weird about China but, perhaps push them left?

i assume that everyone will all just be younger than me and hate me when they find out what I actually do, or that i won't be able to keep up with the reading

I'm younger than you, seems cool? Also like, you know Engels right? Factory owner? I don't think your job position precludes you from doing good, probably. It's a shit position but eh... I understand being afraid to commit, burning out like that does sound bad but you could try again! Find a healthy balance maybe!!

You are welcome meow-petted big reply!

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

spoileroof sorry took me a long time to type out i started feeling a bit unwell, thanks for the response

I'd be fucking pissed if my job got uprooted that way.

I guess I've been going through some denial/bargaining/sadness about it, honestly. this is my first job i've lasted for more than a year at, and i would be fine until demands exceeded my needs and then i would just be unable to cope entirely.

i moved so a smaller city where downtown was like a 15 minute bus ride from my apartment and ... suddenly everything became possible. everyone is really laid back here and i feel a lot safer.

Okay but the "best" bullshit job is still a bullshit job, and in a capitalist system right?

yeah, true.

regarding relating, sorry maybe i misunderstood.

edit: i think i understand now. i think you're mad because i'm feeling guilty about something that i shouldn't right?

I'd feel fucked up too if I was deciding people's livelihoods.

yeah, luckily it's only once per year ... but ... thinking about it makes me feel ill.

I have no idea what orgs are, sorry I'm a lib. The new Commie Party Canada iirc is some absurd "no war but the classwar" borderline queerphobic shit that's weird about China but, perhaps push them left?

i don't think i have the persuasive capacity and the assertiveness to push anyone any direction about anything that's not software related imo

i know there's also the one which just started (which i think is also IMT affiliated) but just knowing that there's people calling themselves leftists out there that wouldn't want queer people like me there makes me sad. i also don't want to get sucked in too deep when i'm scoping the place out. it's awful, i literally cannot say no to people, so i really avoid putting myself in positions like this where people might ask me for things.

i used to think i was so argumentative and difficult, but actually i was just overwhelmed, and actually my main struggle is probably people pleasing.

I'm younger than you, seems cool?

i certainly don't feel my age, i thought things were largely fine in my life until i started scratching beneath the surface this past couple of months in therapy and reading about ND stuff, and i honestly now feel like i stopped growing in like my teens sometimes, so ... idk, i have a lot of complicated thoughts about my age that i'm not sure how to unpack.

but yes, i enjoy talking to you, so i guess it does seems cool from my end at least :)

Also like, you know Engels right? Factory owner? I don't think your job position precludes you from doing good, probably.

yeah, on good days, i feel like i can be the good boss, trying to advocate for people, make everyone's jobs easier, be really flexible about rules, etc. (there aren't really that many rules anyway). but, sunday night, i just get this feeling of being stuck there for 8 hours tomorrow. yeah, i slack off sometimes, reading silly posts on bear site helps, but i'm still in front of a computer that i don't own, in meetings i run (exhausting), and being interrupted every 5 minutes by some message or other that requires me to read paragraphs of information and context switch to one of the like 18 codebases i'm supposed to know everything about. and on slow days, 8 hours feels like an eternity to do nothing of substance to me. (trying really hard not to feel guilty about how i feel about that)

I understand being afraid to commit, burning out like that does sound bad but you could try again!

i wonder if there's an org that meets once every two months haha

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

spoilerAh I'm really sorry to hear this job fucked up then, that super fuckin sucks. Your first half decent job... I'm in a city that size or smaller, and yeah it's unnaturally chill here, which is cool.

edit: i think i understand now. i think you're mad because i'm feeling guilty about something that i shouldn't right?

Yes and because I literally relate to your thoughts ✨

just knowing that there's people calling themselves leftists out there that wouldn't want queer people like me there makes me sad

This is why I never looked into commies and shit before hexbear frankly. It's not a super common position, but the Canada Communist Party, their statement has weird shit about "identity politics" and whatever the fuck. Eugh, reactionaries. Also given you have trouble saying no it does make sense to avoid stuff like that. "No" is a good skill, of course...

now feel like i stopped growing in like my teens sometimes, so ... idk, i have a lot of complicated thoughts about my age that i'm not sure how to unpack.

I'm not sure either, I'm some yappy little fuckin nerd. I get on with people somewhat older than me very consistently, but I don't have weird feelings about my age, lucky me lol. And I have liked talking with you too :)

God your job sounds like actual torture in all respects, my condolences. Even with good pay, pto and wfh I do not envy you this position, despite being "worse off" y'know. Helljob.

Once every two months would be rad! Please!!

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

spoilerthank you so much for listening to me and replying btw, i hope i can return the kindness in some way

I'm in a city that size or smaller, and yeah it's unnaturally chill here, which is cool.

i've lived nearly in a bunch of places and have extremely detailed and nuanced thoughts on each city i've lived in and even visited. i would totally write long and detailed posts about all of them, but probably shouldn't.

i know one of my friends (this phrasing makes it sound like i have a lot of friends lol, i have like 2) just moved here from an even smaller town after she had to deal with some queerphobic shit, so i guess this is as small as i go.

Yes and because I literally relate to your thoughts ✨

well, then i declare i will not feel guilty anymore for feeling stifled by my job! ... or ... at least i will try to. thank you.

This is why I never looked into commies and shit before hexbear frankly.

hexbear communist party when

Also given you have trouble saying no it does make sense to avoid stuff like that. "No" is a good skill, of course...

yeah, i feel guilty here too for not doing more, thanks for saying that. and the duality of "avoid things that you can't say no to" and "learn to say no better" is not lost on me... maybe hanging around here will help me learn to be more assertive. or i could bug Cool Therapist about it when i see her next.

God your job sounds like actual torture in all respects, my condolences. Even with good pay, pto and wfh I do not envy you this position, despite being "worse off" y'know. Helljob.

yeah, my partner says maybe i should look for a new job, and i told him "i don't want a new job, i want this job 2 years ago :(" but he's probably right. at some point, i'll need to leave and take a pay cut. or maybe things will get better here, idk it probably shouldn't stay like this if i'm this messed up about it that it takes me like 40 minutes to do a single post lol.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

spoilerYou are welcome ✨ Uh if you respond to my weirdest posts I will consider it more than returned, but also dw about it.

Sad that city posts would be basically doxing, cause that would be cool... and yeah queerphobia, ech. There's a sweet spot for city size I guess.

As long as you try not to feel guilty that's what counts nia-peace

HEXBEAR COMMUNIST PARTY NOW!!! hexbear-retro

You should def bug Cool Therapist about it, but it would be rad too if hanging here lets you be more assertive. Be assertive at me!!!!

Yeeeeeah it might pay (not literally lol) to get out if it's crushing you so bad. Maybe you could use your experience with this job to get something semi comparable at least? I know job market is hellish though.

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

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Uh if you respond to my weirdest posts I will consider it more than returned, but also dw about it.

:takes-notes: respond...to...all...ashinadash...posts...during...work...hours. got it

Sad that city posts would be basically doxing, cause that would be cool... and yeah queerphobia, ech. There's a sweet spot for city size I guess.

ya, lucked out here, some nice scenery but terrible allergies here

As long as you try not to feel guilty that's what counts nia-peace

i will try! also ... this is reminding me that i got like actually obsessed with xenoblade chronicles 2 when it came out and nia is literally the best character in that game imo, maybe worth a post...

You should def bug Cool Therapist about it, but it would be rad too if hanging here lets you be more assertive. Be assertive at me!!!!

curious-sickle actually i think this might be a good idea. if i can be assertive online, maybe i can work into it in person too!

it'll be a few weeks for CT tho, Cool Therapist is busy apparently lol and i got lazy making appts and didn't realize she was 3 weeks out

Yeeeeeah it might pay (not literally lol) to get out if it's crushing you so bad. Maybe you could use your experience with this job to get something semi comparable at least? I know job market is hellish though.

yeah, i'm getting close to that point. it's possible if i could find the right words that the well meaning people above me would know how to fix it, or that things will get better once i adjust to a new rhythm, or i get laid off with a nice severance lol. but i should start thinking about what next would be in case those things don't happen. (tbh i want next to be like a year off lmao). even just having a backup plan could help with the anxiety.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

spoilerIt's more like uh, I dunno, I post weird things and nobody replies sometimes basil-anxious-smile "I showed you [whatever weird book screed] please reply"... Also allergies gang lol

Oh god Xenoblade, is it Xenoblade 2 time???

Ooooh that DOES sound cool! Sucks about long-off appointments but if you can do some asserting online in the meantime...

the well meaning people above me would know how to fix it,

madeline-stare Listen right, I think you're cool but I somehow doubt there is ANYBODY above you in your weird tech job who is not fucking slime honestly. With respect, it does not look to be getting better and planning ahead for a new job sounds very good...

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

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It's more like uh, I dunno, I post weird things and nobody replies sometimes "I showed you [whatever weird book screed] please reply"

tbh this is kinda why i didn't post online until recently, feels bad to work hard on post to try to start a conversation and have just no one respond.

you can always @ me and i will do my best :)

Oh god Xenoblade, is it Xenoblade 2 time???

hmmmmm i am not sure i have a full post in my head about it unless i replay it again ... on emulator ... and somehow disable the dynamic resolution stuff. i like environments in games, XC2 especially, Gormott is one of the best video game places, and Uraya (also the OST for the game is SO GOOD its one of the few physical CD sets I own). I would probably want to boot it up and grab screenshots ... aside, I booted up the Riven remake in VR today and just kinda sat on edge of the transit platform and stared at the ocean for a life half an hour lol. good stuff, too bad the game runs really poorly. maybe i'll write up a post on that game tomorrow.

oh man, i could write posts about so many games, other things i like, etc, damnit i'm gonna do it, i'm gonna post!! even if no one replies!! maybe book reviews too...

Listen right, I think you're cool but I somehow doubt there is ANYBODY above you in your weird tech job who is not fucking slime honestly. With respect, it does not look to be getting better and planning ahead for a new job sounds very good...

True, my boss is a lib, and his boss is the CTO, and is generally very easygoing-seeming. They really like me I think, buuuutttt some of the things they've said in meetings, and some of the decisions are not great... plus maybe i can code again if i go somewhere else? hmm............ well, I have savings at least, so even if i walked out tomorrow i'd be good for a few months, so I'm at least prepared. wish i could just take a month off tbh, that'd probably change everything lol

I'll think on it, maybe talk to a recruiter sometime soon (god last I talked to someone a lot of jobs wanted people in the office some/all of the time). I think a night like tonight is not something I want to experience again, that dread, which would become regular, usually preceded completely losing a job in the past, either by quitting, or doing so bad I get fired. So I agree, I should do something so I feel less trapped.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

spoilerpowercry-1 I would NEVER post something big and efforty and get no replies!!! Could not be me...

lets-fucking-go AW FUCK YEAH FUCK YEAH, I am so excited to read your game and book posts. Even just from this snippet I bet they'll be good. I will prolly reply tbh.

Taking a month off would slap, you not have enough pto for that? But yeeeeeeah fuckin libs, every time. I hope whatever you do is good for you and breaks this cycle of dread for you. I beleaf in you.

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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Taking a month off would slap, you not have enough pto for that?

I would if it were the beginning of the year, but I've been steadily taking the 4 weeks so far, just had a week off week before last, and I took my actual birthday day off this week, so that's at least nice. Could do it next year ... hmm. Also holidays are coming up too, 2 weeks is nice.

I wonder if they'd be amenable to an unpaid month off for me... I bet they'd prefer that to me quitting lol

I hope whatever you do is good for you and breaks this cycle of dread for you. I beleaf in you.

There was a time where I thought a full-time job was impossible for me, so this is already a huge improvement. Usually I remind myself that all I need to do is show up. I don't need to be in perfect form, or even right on time, I just need to be present. That's what they want. Everything is easier if I can make it that far. And I don't need to be perfect in every way, or even competent in every way.

Maybe I'll sneak in a draft of a post in the morning then. I should take screenshots, maybe over lunch... I gotta figure out how to get a book into VR so that i can read in Riven (although canonically this is a really stupid idea the world is breaking apart and you probably have very little time to do , it's got those vibes). alas, the tech isn't there yet sicko-wistful

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

spoilertbh i want to frame this quote btw, i can't stop reading it it's so funny and has that quality that i can't quite describe, it's like the perfect assembly of words

I watch the general megathread with enthusiasm, and aside from sad soft loverboys writing crushposts the other most common type of post is "this fucking emailjob I have is killing me jfc", lol.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

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