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[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

I feel a few points above aren’t correct from my knowledge, can we discuss?

Israel is a strategic location for the US to maintain military power in both the Middle East and northern Europe.

I agree Israel provides intelligence to the US, and there are some bases in the country, but I disagree with its importance in the overall power projection, especially with our access to saudi arabia. Also, the us and israel have a love/hate relationship, well demonstrated by the USS Liberty incident.

The US has access to nuclear capable weapons in Israel and that keeps Moscow in check.

The israeli arsenal is generally believed to be american uranium and stolen british nuclear secrets, and is not controlled by the us. Even if the us had some say in the use of this arsenal, this is a pittance of what the us would have available. So this doesn’t strike me as a strong argument.

current leadership in Israel is well known to be sympathetic to Russian influence and is likely tempted by the goal to eradicate all Muslims, something Moscow is likely to allow.

This argument is the most confusing; russia is making close ties to chechen leaders and has muslim countries in its sphere of influence. Israel just bombed a russian weapon depot, and the putin regime is denouncing israelli actions of late.

I agree trump would be best for russia (and israel actually, his isolationist policies are horrible for us power projection), but russia needs iranian weapons to support its ukraine war effort. Iran at war will cause shahed deliveries to be redirected and hurt russia’s ability to degrade ukranian air defenses and infrastructure. Russia seems to be playing a soft political support for iran and the muslim countries because there is no cost to do so, and I feel your argument about their preferring a fight to weaken the democrats is a good one, just not with one of their major weapon suppliers in their current war efforts.

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