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[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 66 points 1 year ago

It seems like we've all lost the plot. We'd probably be willing to view ads if the experience wasn't literally jarring. Try browsing for a day on a plain-no-extension browser. If you use other web enhancement tools kill those too. Straight-up internet is cancer, especially on mobile.

It's impossible to read a 250-word article without being interrupted 5-7 times. Two of those interruptions are likely a full page overlay with give me your email, and are you sure you don't want to subscribe, just give me your credit card number.

Then there are auto-play videos on the side, some with audio on by default. I mean I came here to read something, so of course we have things flashing and moving and making noise, it's the most conducive environment for thought, right?

Ad blockers and script blocking are essentially a hazmat suit that allows us to withstand a hostile environment. Remember when we said myspace pages with audio and [marching-ants] borders was a bad UX? At least we didn't have overlays back then.

Go back to basics and consider what makes a good vs bad internet experience. The reality sounds like someone with a minor case of severe brain damage. I think we've just become unashamed of greed as a society. It's clearly all just about money.

Those annoying customers/users generate content and we have to put up with them so we can monetize it. *Sadly, It's unclear if I'm talking about youtube, reddit, or nearly any other site.

Le sigh.

[-] StrayCatFrump@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We’d probably be willing to view ads if the experience wasn’t literally jarring.

Not me, sorry. Fuck ads. I've been ad-free for like a decade, and I'm not interested in regressing.

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Even if there was a balance and the ads were non-intrusive? I mean, servers and bandwidth cost money. I'm in the same boat as you where I have run ad blockers, adblocker blockers, no script, privacy enhancers, and anti-fingerprinting since forever ago.

I'd rather view a few reasonable ads than have a site try to mine and sell my data. If there was a balance, this is where I'd say it was reasonable. Since not reality, I'm with you, nuke them all, and just take the content.

[-] longshaden@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The definition of "reasonable ads" and "just a few ads" keeps sliding. I'm old enough to remember the early internet, and that this lie has been told many times.

Just a few acceptable ads always becomes many unacceptable ads, because money.

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Just like cable tv!

[-] Kir@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

I'm willing to pay for site and services I consider valuable. Not with my data, not with my attention.

[-] StrayCatFrump@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if there was a balance and the ads were non-intrusive?

I don't need propaganda telling me to want to buy shit that I otherwise wouldn't want to buy, no. I'll go to other consumers (and, more specifically, people I trust) to determine what things are worth, not entities with a conflict of interest in the matter.

The whole marketing/advertising industry is illegitimate and harmful, and I'm "boycotting" the whole thing until we finish the job of destroying capitalism and it's no longer needed anyway.

I’d rather view a few reasonable ads than have a site try to mine and sell my data.

The corporations are going to try to mine and sell your data anyway. Why wouldn't they? You think just because they have a revenue stream through ads that they'll give up another revenue stream from fucking over your privacy? Then I've got this nice bridge to sell you, too....

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think you're right, I feel like I'm looking for a little good-will among our kind (bleak and probably misguided at best). Sellers and consumers need to coexist in some manner, but what that relationship should be is yet to be defined. For now, we're in a place that needs change for sure.

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