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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now (sh.itjust.works)

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[+] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 3 weeks ago

I feel bad for the Palestinians in Gaza of course. Not for their relatives in america who just helped put a fascist in power who will kill their relatives.

Anyone who didnt vote or voted for Stein is deserving of everything that will happen to them I hope their family in Palestine will cut them off because they have signed their life away.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

And what's your solution to those with legitimate hangups? Sit behind a keyboard and call them idiots? There was no downside to being 100% anti genicide. There is no downside to be for universal health care. There's no downside to making education 100% free. There's no downside to fighting for income redistribution.

What's your solution to these real fucking problems? Because the democrats never truly tried any of these or even advocated for them. It's been this way since the new deal. A slow decay to Jim crow, women's suffrage, and xenophobia. We need new tactics because what you and the Democrat leadership is saying and doing isn't fucking working!

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

There is no solution. Idiots will stay idiots. They obviously dont give af about democracy or the lifes of anyone else but themselves.

As long as these idiots are alive they will keep handing the reigns to fascists who do exactly what the idiots punish the dems for.

All we can hope for is that american burns down quickly without too much damage to anyone else. So this time maybe something decent can be built on the remains.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lol okay then way are voting. Why are you commenting? Rather than being proactive with a problem solving mindset you are just going to continue to do things that obviously don't work? This isn't some unavailable catastrophic outcome. This happened because people prefer to rip each other down than trying to lift each other up. If you aren't fighting for marginalized people everywhere, why do you get mad when they respond with apathy or anger when you demand they support your ideals? Everyone is copable in this presidential outcome. No one group or person is 100% to blame. My 2020 vote for Biden has blood on it and that doesn't sit well with me. I make up for it by doing more than just voting and insulting people on the internet. That's how you gain votes. Not whatever you are doing. The DNC could have let Palestinian Americans speak, but they didn't. They could have had a more left platform, but they didn't. This centrists agenda has a 33% success rate over the past three elections and when democracy is at stake can you really be calus to your base? I have history and facts on my side.

What's the definition of insanity?

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing is going to work to get people who fell for fascism back. These marginalized groups are the ones who suffer the most under Trumps fascism but doing what they did they deserve it. They obviously want it since they didnt mind handing the country to Trump.

The trump voters, non voters and third party voters are 100% to blame.

The democrats could be less right wing, sure. I wish they were. But it wouldnt have changed anything. Fascists and their enablers will not change. They want to take away peoples and their own freedoms.