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    Windows VS Linux (lemmy.world)
    submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by trespasser69@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 128 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I've never "debloated" Windows so idk about the top half.

    The bottom half is accurate. Debian, Fedora, and Mint are easier to install than Windows 10 or 11. Not that Windows is difficult, it's just a bit clunky and idiosyncratic.

    I assume Microsoft doesn't care much about the installer since it's generally only used by OEMs, whereas for Linux distros it's a first impression so it has to be polished.

    [–] user224 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    No excuse though. Try the "install as oem" of Linux Mint. You get an install with temporary oem account, you can update the system, install additional programs, then click "Prepare for shipping to end user" and on next boot you're greeted with a setup screen.

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That sounds pretty nice. More installers should have something like that

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

    It's very user friendly. I switched last year and haven't looked back. I game on it constantly.

    [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well, if you want accuracy, then no the meme isn't really that accurate.

    On an updated Win11 system the Shift+ F10 command prompt "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" trick still works to setup a new system without Internet (and by extension, without a MS account) so that's like most of the battle right there

    The rest is taken care of with your choice of debloat scripts that are out there

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    compared to clicking "next" on Fedora, Debian, or Mint

    I'd say using a simple straightforward GUI is much easier than an arcane combination of commands and keypresses

    [–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, did we just reach a point where a command line input is needed for Windows and Linux just needs to press a few buttons??

    [–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

    I can't find it now, but there was a meme about that here. How 20 years ago vs present the two are flipped.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

    Only if you don't count installing drivers

    [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well, I didn't say it should be ranked towards the bottom lol, if we want to make this graph accurate it would be below arch but above "Windows the normal way"

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

    I think i misunderstood you my bad

    [–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

    If you install arch with the archinstall script you basically get a setup wizard

    And installing a Microsoft-account-free Windows install is only the first step of de-bloating the system. So I'd say debloated Windows in somewhere between Arch and Gentoo

    [–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

    I used AtlasOS on my windows partition. Had to cause for some reason steam streaming was borked and would only black screen. And now I’m too lazy to swap back over to cachyos. Lmao. Waiting to see that bug is fixed.

    [–] twinnie@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I had to install Windows 11 on something a few weeks ago so I decided to do it without an account, it was nowhere near as difficult to do it as this sub would lead you to believe. Pressed a key combination to load up the command prompt then typed in a relatively short command. The GUI restarted and that was it.

    [–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

    Yeh, it's there.
    But Linux installers would straight up ask you. So you don't even need to hit the CLI