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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Awoo@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

Seems like this subreddit has recently appeared criticising a lot of the toxic misogyny that is apparent among GenZ boys/men.

Shit like this thread gives a good example of the mindsets young women are dealing with among these guys: https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckYouZoomer/comments/1gv5pdl/date_with_a_typical_podcast_bro_brainrotted/

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Maybe this isn't the space that will properly counter it, some of it is deeply reactionary, but there seems to be an energy and interest building in countering it now. Enough people seem to view it as a problem.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

That's what enough_vaush_spam essentially is too. It's what all the "criticize x thing" subreddits are. This one is vulgar and not particularly well operated but in terms of what it is criticising, the primary issue it seems to have is with genz males being hyper misogynistic.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They seem to be doing it in an extremely generalizing and dehumanizing way. Like I don't think they're criticizing from a feminist lens or in good faith. It seems like they've identified an out group to hate and are essentializing and dehumanizing that group ruthlessly. Their nominal target is misogyny but their methods are reactionary.

How does that track? Does this sound like a reasonable analysis? I'm still browsing the sub and getting a feel for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1gwc7a4/the_least_worst/

As a contrast Skull Shaun is currently the subject of the top post on GenZ and it seems like there's a pretty fierce battle going on there between Incels and normal people.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

How does that track? Does this sound like a reasonable analysis? I'm still browsing the sub and getting a feel for it.

It does feel that way to me. Just ragebait and dehumanizing discourse wrapped in vague progressivism.

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Frank absolutely nailed it, some really solid and well-stated analysis.

This is also a really good example of the concerns we have with dunk content here on the site. Like you said, ragebait and dehumanizing discourse but here wrapped in vague leftism and a ton of irony poisoning.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I did say somewhere else that the comments there feel different from here, even when at the core it's engaging in "dunking" either way, reddit feels meaner and it just brings you down, here it's different.

It's a vibes-based analysis, anyway, and maybe it's because I know most of the people here, so I feel safer knowing where I stand.

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

I think a good way of describing the vibe shift in terms of toxicity, meanness, and misanthropy is that Reddit is a 10/10 on the scale of Bad Vibes, but we've got things at about a 6/10 over here.

It's gonna feel bad for everyone immersed in dunking here to look at everything cranked all the way up in comparison, but a frog looking in from outside our 6/10 boiling pot is still gonna see our site culture as toxic, mean, and misanthropic.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their nominal target is misogyny but their methods are reactionary.

Right, this is why I threw it in slop to begin with. But I think the point I'm trying to make is that if this kind of thing is occurring naturally by lay-people now then there's energy and interest that exists for an actual push from people who know more theory.

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