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[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 3 weeks ago

Unions didn't learn their lesson when they voted Reagan. They won't learn their lesson when they voted Trump. I hate to say this but they're tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

Racism is stronger than unions it's what that means

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Right, everyone could use a healthy dose of NPR right now. Russia absolutely beat the USA in the Misinformation War.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Salt of the earth

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

[…] they’re tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.

Are you saying that tradesmen aren't capable of being critical thinkers? Or are you saying that they aren't critical thinkers in spite of being tradesmen?

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm saying these tradesmen don't stop to think that they're voting against their best interest every time they suffer a major setback from a union busting Republican. Am I saying Biden was better? No, but at least he didn't dissolve the air traffic control union through the barrel of a rifle.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’m saying these tradesmen don’t stop to think that they’re voting against their best interest every time they suffer a major setback from a union busting Republican.

What exactly do you mean by "these tradesman", though? I'm trying to determine if I correctly understood the intent behind your wording as being condescending towards tradesmen.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think you're reading too deep into this. They're skilled workers who specialize in some very difficult jobs and had the good sense to unionize to prevent getting fucked too hard by owners and the management class. That said, I don't think most of them realize they're contradicting themselves at the gubernatorial level by electing people who "talk like them" or "tell it like it is" versus someone who at least did the political calculus of siding with them to a small degree on strikes.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Either you're not answering the question, or I am entirely misunderstanding this entire thread. You said:

I hate to say this but they’re tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.

To me, this comes off as extremely condescending — it reads like you are saying that people who are tradesmen are incapable of complex thought (ie critical thinking). I'm simply asking for you to explicitly clarify that statement. If my reading is incorrect, then how would you word it to make it more clear? How you reword it might clarify your intent and explain your following replies.


They’re skilled workers who specialize in some very difficult jobs and had the good sense to unionize to prevent getting fucked too hard by owners and the management class.

Is this statement clarifying the people that you think "aren't critical thinkers"?

this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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