I recently saw one with the Jesus fish and an AK-47 sticker.
I immediately realized I probably don’t ever wanna talk to this person.
"I love Jesus. I'll help you meet him" -definitely a weird take
You know what Jesus would’ve loved? Guns!
I think this person is deeply confused.
Checkmate, librul
Jesnold Schwarzenazareth
Christianity was founded on violence, and has continued the tradition ever since.
I drove around with a Jesus fish on the back of one of my cars for 5 years. It looked like it belonged there. It was a raised plastic fish covered with chrome on a silver car.
One day a guy said to me, “I thought you were a non believer.” “What made you say that? Catch me saying, “god please!” or something?” I said.
“Well, you got a religious thing on the back of your car!”
How did I not know that? It was on there so long at that point that I was attached to it. Haha
Unions didn't learn their lesson when they voted Reagan. They won't learn their lesson when they voted Trump. I hate to say this but they're tradesmen and not necessarily critical thinkers.
Racism is stronger than unions it's what that means
Right, everyone could use a healthy dose of NPR right now. Russia absolutely beat the USA in the Misinformation War.
They never learn. They will just lay blame on anything but the GOP. (Gray Old Pedophiles)
Came to these comments to say "Naive of you to assume they'll learn anything."
"I'm a fascist and a right-libertarian and pro-union." The only positive takeaway I have from this is that some people are so uninformed (or overinformed but with no ability to think critically) that they make these choices – and thus education and outreach may still yet save us.
I hate to say it but dismissing these people like that is how the Dems got here.
This is someone who wants things to be better. They're pro-union because they want someone to fight for their rights. And they're pro-Trump because all four years of the Dems has done for them is make prices higher. The Dems have been crowing about how the economy is doing better than ever, but for people like this it's not. GDP and the Fortune 500 being up is great for investors, but it's not great for an average worker. For an average worker, things are worse than ever.
They don't know that much about what Trump stands for, but they know he stands for "something other than this." And for these people - for the vast majority of people today - "this" isn't working.
The Dems need to reach voters like this, and they absolutely can. These people aren't for fascism, they just don't believe that that's what they're voting for. They believe they're voting for change, and Trump is the only person offering them change. What the Dems offered them was "more of the same", and that's not an appealing offer to people who are drowning.
My dude you are not wrong - but how do you talk to these people about policy nuances and compromise to get things done if THEY'RE the ones being dismissive about things and rejecting objective reality? I get that they're not doing well. That doesn't mean that anyone (including Trump) can wave a magic wand and make things better. It seems to me the only way to win these voters over is to play the Republican game - get your own propaganda arm for your political party and yell and lie louder than the Republicans.
You're skipping right past the really simple thing that so few of the Dems; tell them that they're right.
These people are hurting, and both Harris and Biden simply told them "No you're not, look how high the NASDAQ is."
That's a bullshit way to treat someone when they're struggling and asking for help. The simplest thing to do is just to say "Yes, you're right, shit fucking sucks and we need to make it better."
That's why people love Bernie. That's why there's such a huge crossover in people who voted for Trump and people who voted for AOC. Cortez doesn't bullshit people. She knows they're hurting, she knows they're poorer now than they were four years ago and she says it.
This is what Bernie means when he says the Dems have abandoned the working class. The crazy part is, Biden was actually great for unions. The NLRB under his tenure oversaw one of the largest expansions in union membership in US history. But instead of talking about that they talked about how great people's fucking investment portfolios are doing. That doesn't mean shit to people who can't afford a fucking investment portfolio.
Before they worry about selling people on the details of the plan, the Dems could start by just addressing their problems, instead of telling them they don't have any problems.
Imagine being pro union but also somehow libertarian. Fuckin wild. Do they not realize that in a libertarian system anyone trying to form a union would be fired immediately?
There was a house like that at a town near us that has a cafe my daughter likes to go to. A giant Trump flag, a Trump banner on both porch railings, and a "Proud Union Home" sign in the yard. Made me shake my head every time I saw it.
I'm a school bus driver and we're all members of the Teamsters. Most of my coworkers are fanatical trumpers - in their universe it's the GOP who are pro-union and the liberals who are trying to destroy unions (and help the illegal immigrants). A few of the most fanatical trumpers are (married) lesbians as well. Dealing with conservatives has always been a frustrating experience, but at least they used to be internally consistent with their shit. This complete disconnect from all aspects of reality seems like the one truly new part of all this.
This complete disconnect from all aspects of reality
The rules they demand are only to apply to the out-group.
They need not fear any of the rules they demand, because they are part of the in-group: Christians by self-proclamation. Trumpublicans by self-declaration. Wealthy by self-declaration. None of that even has to be true, they just have to think they are part of the in-group, and they expect none of these rules to ever bite them in the ass. That is how a man married to a black woman can try and end marriage for couples with different skin colors. That is how a lesbian can vote for people that hate lesbians. Because they think it is not about them, because they are on the "right" side. You can see the very same thing in Germany, where one of the leaders of the popular nazi party "AfD" is a lesbian.
Should they not care about others in the same situation as they are? No, because these fuckers have 0 empathy. Zero. None.
The sad part is that in the end, it will come and bite them in the ass, and they will argue that that is okay and right, as long as it bites someone else in the ass even harder. And the guys who are the real in-group, the guys with billions to their name, they are sitting their, laughing about all of us because once again, they managed to keep us underlings fighting amonst ourselves instead of making ready the guillotines.
Unfettered capitalism means people have a rough time, instead of doing a bit of introspection it's easier to blame minorities and/or look for a guy who talks big and promises big sweeping changes
Oh, it is already happening. There are a LOT of these people in my part of the country. They are all fuming because their compensation is getting cut, and some companies are moving to Europe, in preparation for the Trump tariffs.
Are they connecting this to Trump though, are they taking the Trump flags off?
Even if they did make the connection, it takes more than that to break free from a cult.
The fact that both of those bumper stickers are on that car shows how much the Democratic Party has failed the working class
Assumes facts without evidence.
The influence of toxic social media funded by sources determined to be other governments suggested that even a candidate running on a humane law-and-order mixed ticket with a history in helping others and fostering opportunity and a proven track record in the field still wouldn't have had a chance. Because that was the ticket.
Yeah, the V6 in those traverse are garbage. Sooner or later that timing chain is going to let go and ruin your whole week.
Tread harder, Daddy
This is one of the biggest flaws Democrats have.
They're good at getting shit done, but horrible at letting anyone know they did it.
So they fix something, give a speech that translates to "Political nerd shit!" and middle America doesn't care, doesn't listen, or worst of all.. attempts to listen and has no idea what is being said.
Meanwhile Trump does nothing, directly takes credit for a good thing that happened regardless of or even in spite of him, and then they cheer for it because they don't hear "Political nerd shit", they hear "I got ya a big one, there's never been anything like this. We won huge!"
And then they applaud because although nothing is actually happening because Trump is incompetent, they FEEL like maybe something is.
Look at all the people going "So now that Biden's leaving, we're getting more Stimulus Checks right? Cause Trump signed those and he's back" (Ignoring that that only happened because a pandemic that Trump worsened, and because Democrats in the Senate pushed for it), only for Newscasters to keep having to HARD Deconfirm that anything like that is going to happen.
Biden was kicked out of office and Kamela barred from office, because of problems that Biden and Kamela were both acknowledging and had already been in the middle of solving.
The dumbasses who think Trump's tariffs are magic spells that lower prices are going to regret the election....
Since I didn't fuck around, I'd love to skip on "Finding out"
Democrat's PR team is all Republican undercover agents. You can't convince me otherwise.
My wife was just saying what a poor decision it was for people to put political stickers on their car. I think it's a good idea because you can immediately size up the people you don't need to talk to.
What they're going to learn is that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans care if their families eat, and next election, it'll be 25 million who decide not to vote instead of ten, like it was this time around.
I'm not sure a single union endorsed Trump.
Steamfitters, steel, and police unions endorsed trump. Mostly police. Steelworkers and steamfitters were the local, not the entire org.
Oh, well cops, I should have assumed. I wonder what the reasoning behind the others were.
I believe both were about inflation (caused by Trump/Covid but they dont understand that) and immigratation (thinking illegal immigrants are taking their work - they aren't, companies who pay illegal immigrants drastically lower rates do by under bidding projects).
In short, ignorance.
this hurts me
I wish they were capable of learning.
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