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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

This is an old post, but I want to dunk on this idea because I've heard it in real life.

The common sense:

"...that barbarous and hellish power which hath stirred up Indians and Negroes to destroy us." — Thomas Paine, Common Sense

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[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Thomas Paine said WHAT?!?!

And here I thought he was the only good one.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

The barbarous and hellish power is the British empire, the full context of the quote is far more anti-British than anti-"Indians and negros". It's basically saying "the empire is stoking ethnic divisions in the colonies to maintain dominance over them" but the wording is, perhaps, a bit problematic. Also, Hexbear is always going to be more sympathetic to the pro-British black and indigenous communities than Paine had been, for obvious reasons.

[-] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In addition to what ham said, Paine was writing to a settler-colonist audience who greatly resented occupants of the land who weren't white, so it's an easy appeal to the audience to stoke racial animosity and "blame it on the guy who is responsible for all the other problems too"

this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2024
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