What news sources do you follow with which you generally disagree? (lemmy.world)

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion... Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

John Stuart Mill

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I read the Financial Times despite being on the left but I find that useful because they don’t cover DC drama unless it legitimately matters. I’m not at all interested in broadening my horizons by reading American conservative bullshit. I already know what they’re going to say. I prefer to read new perspectives. To give an example, I’d rather read a novel by an African woman than learn what propaganda Fox News is pushing. I just don’t care anymore.

“Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.”

— G.K. Chesterton

[-] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

Meh. He shoulda quit while he was ahead.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Oh no, I wouldn't recommend Fox or Newsmax or the ilk on anyone.

But I do like to understand what the best version of things I disagree with are. Wider perspectives are important but if I agree with all of them? I dunno, it feels intellectually lazy to me. That's why I'm asking! I'd like to find something akin to what the National Review used to be.

Otherwise, to me at least, there's a very real danger of becoming the kind of person who writes off everyone who disagrees with me as ignorant, bigoted or evil. Which, in my opinion, isn't a great way to live. Though, admittedly, I've always found those "everything is black or white" folks to be insufferably boring so maybe I'm just trying to not be that person instead of any high minded ideal.

Sorry I'm tired and rambling while pooping.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

Not all opinions are inherently valid or valuable though. That's the Paradox of Tolerance. You do eventually have to draw a line, because some people will use the benefit of the doubt to dismantle democracy

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Though, admittedly, I’ve always found those “everything is black or white” folks to be insufferably boring so maybe I’m just trying to not be that person instead of any high minded ideal.

I appreciate this level of introspection. I think you're right to keep an open mind and to seek a broader view of the issues, but don't be afraid for the conclusion you draw to be that someone or some opinion is ignorant, bigoted, or hateful. You should be open to any possibility... but as anticlimactic as it is, sometimes something really is black or white; that's a possibility just like any other. Understanding why someone hateful thinks the way they do is useful, but it doesn't change the fact that they are.

TL;DR: If you never consider other viewpoints, you'll never find the right one, but if you never stop considering them, you'll never find the right one either. I wish you luck in your pursuit of knowledge.

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