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Ukraine war latest: 43,000 dead, Volodymyr Zelensky says in rare update (www.bbc.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died and 370,000 have been injured since Russia’s invasion began, marking a rare admission of the conflict’s toll.

He also claimed 198,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, though casualty figures from both sides remain unverified.

The update comes amid heightened fighting, with Russia suffering record monthly casualties in November.

Talks with French President Macron and U.S. Trump focused on a potential peace deal, with Zelensky emphasizing the need for international guarantees to secure lasting peace against Russian aggression.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Goddammit, it’s just not right. I know we (the west) do a lot already to help Ukraine. But honestly we need to do more. Ukrainians are fighting for their right to merely exist!! The Ukrainians do not deserve this, and we need to do everything we can to stop Russia. They are doing harm all over the world, and if the Russian federation collapses from losing the war, we get rid of Russia undermining everything everywhere else.

Slava Ukraini

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't understand why we don't put troops in cities and say fight away from civilians or commit an act of war against our soldiers

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Because they don't want to actually go to war. Russia would bomb the cities as normal, and some of those troops would get injured/killed, but a retaliatory attack by any member of NATO would be viewed as an offensive, and void of article 5 needing to be enacted or followed. If one did use retaliatory strikes Russia would cry about being the victim like always.

The reason UN troops were not there to do such was because Russia has the ability to veto them stepping in. That took place in February 2022

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Historically that hasn't gone well.

And at what point do you hand a city over? If the Ukrainians lose the ground around it, are you going to try and do an enclave? Or does it get handed over? What's the actual goal? Protecting civilians or protecting Ukraine? Because militarily cities are fantastic defensive ground, requiring years to fully occupy if they're properly contested. So you'd also be taking away some great defensive terrain.