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Don’t kid yourself. Reddit was valuable to pretty much all of you or else you wouldn’t continuously shitpost about it.
~~Also I know you’re a former redditor because you’re parroting the same tired-ass old line that is top comment on every thread about something bad happening to someone or some thing they don’t like. Get some new material.~~
EDIT: Speaking of getting new material, I should try not to be as snarky. Get the alien out of your head, my man. We don't need to do that to entertain ourselves anymore. I apologize to @errer@lemmy.world, and I take that shit back. I hope you got a laugh out of it as intended, even though there was no real way to tell it was supposed to be a bit cheeky.
It did still frustrate me to see all that knowledge just hand-waved like what happened was no big deal. I guess "couldn't have happened to a nicer boardroom" or something would have clicked better lol but I'd imagine we're probably on the same page about it at the end of the day.
Anyway, let's all be cool, Lemmy fucking rocks, we're nice here, save the sarcasm for mocking actual malice instead of eating each other. I'll try to be better.
The reason everyone is so mad is because reddit has been so valuable and useful this past 15 years and they are ruining it.
Exactly, we all helped build reddit for what it is today. They repeatedly showed its users and moderators that all they care about is filling their pockets. The API death is just a symptom, but the disease will spread.
I bought Reddit Gold back in the day "to help keep the servers up"... and what did I get!? 😠
(...well, actually happened to sell a few random Moons from r/cryptocurrency for slightly more than what I was foolish to spend on Reddit Gold, so that kind of worked out 🤔)
And it was so valuable and useful because we, the former redditors, made it that way. They're ruining the hard (and free) work people did over those 15 years to make it useful. The good thing is it's been shown to be entirely replaceable, and made better by taking control out of corporate hands.
The special (and valuable) thing about Reddit was its passionate users. Take that away and what's left?
In a way, we were all Spez. Fuck us all!
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Why are so many people openly hostile towards redditors? Are you trying to get us to leave?
What you're failing to realize is that Lemmy needs new users in order to grow. You may not like the bitching, but it keeps conversations going which drives more engagement to the site.
Stop trying to push people away from the platform. People need an alternative to reddit. They've been a monopoly since 2010; it's time for that to change. Won't happen if redditors don't want to come here because they feel unwanted.
So please, try to chill the fuck out. And leave us be.
agreed, redditors are welcomed in the fediverse!
You are welcome. It's just some users that didn't get their hug from mom today.
They got here from Reddit 5 minutes earlier, so that makes them OG lemmings and gives them the right to shit on the latecomers, don't you know? 😉
Uhm, dude has his account for two months, so I think it's save to assume he also is a Reddit refuge. Oh, you know what, it actually says so in his profile.
Am a reddit refuge. Not trying to push anyone out, but we have the chance to change the old ways before they take hold here.
Also, as I stated in my post, I think that something of great value was lost. reddit was valuable. I still get reddit links in most of the things i search for (actually, it feels like even more now) for basically any specific computer or technology questions I'm looking into. Half the time it's deleted, half the time I can't see the thread without logging in and I'd really rather stand my ground.
So yeah, for better or for worse, the internet just experienced some big-ass brain drain. I'd say that was something of value.
Fuck /u/spez though
I think both things can be true -- we have a superior replacement, so Reddit is now of considerable lower value, but also Reddit was super important to me and I'm still deeply invested in it's "demise".
I certainly think that reports of Reddit's death are greatly exaggerated and also would like to see less Reddit-related content, but I think there's space for people who were avid Redditors to have become true believers in the fediverse.
Also, I'm open to people who disagree with my assessment that Lemmy is superior -- if things like number of MAUs or site stability are the most important thing to you, then you'll definitely disagree and that's fine! I more meant that people can change and evolve over time and that doesn't make them hypocrites.
I wonder how searchable Lemmy will be compared to Reddit. Even during/after the blackout, I still get the best results on Google by adding
site:reddit.comto most of my searches. When there's a way to do that for Lemmy (even via a dedicated fediverse indexing site), and it has even a decent fraction of the utility that searching Reddit via Google has, I'll be real happy.You're on a post discussing the potential funneling of Reddit users to Lemmy.world, yet criticize someone for potentially being a Reddit user?
This is the first impression you're setting for them; you're not protecting Lemmy nor are you representing it.
Chill dude, let it organically change if you're tired of Reddit, a lot of people are too.
It doesn't really work that way. Lots of people visited subreddits like cringetopia, whatcouldgowrong, confidentlyincorrect, etc. Basically a compulsion to kill time by gawking at dumb people doing dumb stuff. That doesn't mean those subreddits or that use of time had actual value, even to that specific person though.
It really does work that way. In fact, I’d say attention is one of the most valuable things on the internet. Giving something your attention not only implies it has value to you, but it gives that thing actual monetary value for advertisers.
This is what we're talking about: value to me specifically.
If something has no benefit to me, I can see that doing it is a personal flaw but I still can't resist the compulsion (could be anything: time wasting reddits, crystal meth, alcohol) then it seems really weird to conclude that I "value" it. I'm pretty sure most people don't use the word "value" like that: it's for something that has a benefit to the person. In this case, the "value" is negative if anything.
Do you value your time?
Sure, generally speaking yes. Who wouldn't say that?
Here's your problem though: the process of logic where you look at someone's actions and conclude that they wouldn't have performed the action unless it was valuable to them only works if:
Obviously neither of those things are true. Even if #1 was true, your approach still would run into problems because you wouldn't know if a particular action was a misprediction (that actually didn't end up providing value to that person) or whether it truly was beneficial. Since humans are both often quite irrational and pretty bad at predicting effects to boot, well... back to the drawing board.
Indeed, it "was".
As much as I'd love to ditch Reddit completely, I just had to use information from a few Reddit posts to fix an issue on my home server. I hate to say it, but Reddit is extremely valuable.
That can change, and already has begun. What made Reddit special was exactly what we're doing now, discussion. All it's going to take is for fediverse content to be searchable (if it's not already searchable) and it's game over for Reddit.
Use it while you can, too bad I blanked all my comments, including the ones with support tips, oops! 👿
(there are Reddit content backups out there, but whatever)
Yes, as an archive of obscure solutions it's valuable. It will lose that value as time goes on, though.
You do know which community you're posting in right?
Yes it was valuable. Before July. Now it has lost its value.
Also, it was full of knowledge that has been deleted. I'm starting my Linux journey and every error I get has at least one Reddit post about it. Most answers are deleted and I have to go on other sites.
I'd say we did lose a lot. It's akin to an autodafé.
It’s best to assume everyone here was a redditor, I included.
I think "myself" is the word you're looking for.
sory, no good with grammer
All good!
I know you're a Redditor too lol you can tell just by how you wrote your comment. the snarky dissenting takedown, the fatigue over redditisms, the righteousness mixed with hypocrisy, etc
Agree with all except the "righteousness mixed with hypocrisy" - I didn't whip out "and nothing of value was lost" or "this". Complaining on the internet isn't a reddit trope, it's been around since the beginning.
And now that I read my comment again, i remember that stupid comic with the crow doing standup and goddamnit i've been reddit brained
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
It had value before. It doesn’t anymore. Not a hard concept to understand.
Nice to hear your a big softie and not only do you let companies walk all over you but you defend them for it😂
Why did you extrapolate his disdain for the same beat up (and demonstrably untrue) sentiment for support of Reddit? You realize that one can dislike the corporation while simultaneously understanding and accepting that a VERY large amount of users are still on it? The vast majority of users could not give less of a fuck about API charges or the various third party apps which got axed.
Before I left Reddit, I remember a post on r/sysadmin that the mods had made showing how many people actually used which platforms to consume the content on that sub. Surprisingly, people using third party apps and old.Reddit made up less than 20% (maybe 10%) of participants.
Now could argue that those 10-20% of users were the ones who made the sub worth browsing but it would be a baseless comparison as we don’t know that to be 100% true, for all we know they’re just lurking and not really contributing.
All of this is evidenced by the fact that a lot of big subs that the casuals who use the awful Reddit app / new Reddit website are back to open now with people mindlessly scrolling them and getting served up ads.
Look I want to believe as badly as you seem to that a few users leaving Reddit will be it’s downfall but the reality of the situation is that they’ve just trimmed the fat and all the power users running 3rd party apps and adblockers left.
Maybe read the comment again? Reddit was a wealth of actual information and solutions to weird problems that can't be dug up from FAQs and product support pages; links to old driver downloads, tutorials on how to get different software to work together in ways that the devs don't really have time to support, etc. and that's just for software. I'd image it's the same for many other hobbies; hell, industries even.
Now comments are deleted, people with knowledge aren't posting as much, and (yes, purely out of spite) i'm not logging in so a lot of that discussion is now inaccessible to me (and many others).
So despite your incorrect assumption that I'm bootlicking for reddit corpo, it's the opposite. I'm pissed at those assholes for taking the time to create something valuable to pretty much anyone online and then just cutting it off. Find a better way to become profitable.
Something of value was lost.