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Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 216 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden. I voted for Clinton.

I still wouldn't warn a single one of them if they were about to get hit by a bus.

Its harm reduction. They don't solve anything. They just keep us treading water sinking slowly whereas Republicans start taking a hammer to the hull to open up new holes.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Harm reduction is bad?

Obviously, it's not ideal, but one has to act according to the real life conditions... And in 2024, our only two options were "harm reduction," and literal fascism with literal concentration camps.

Fuck you if you didn't choose harm reduction.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Fuck you if you didn’t choose harm reduction.

...thirty years of choosing harm reduction brought us to this point...

...i held my nose and voted against fascism, but if you want to blame someone, blame the f*cking fascists and blame the thirty years of harm reduction which enabled them: pluralities win, that's how american democracy works...

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

This is such a dumb take. You can't say "thirty years of harm reduction brought us here" with the implication that if Republicans won every election in the time frame things would somehow be better, unless you're actually just a right wing voter.

I'll say it for the thousandth time: voting in national elections in no way affects your ability to do other activism. If your argument is along the lines of "voting for the worst option will unite the resistance and we'll make real change", well, I hope you realize that that "real change" is bloody revolution with an uncertain result.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Harm reduction and neoliberalism just wont work, end of discussion. Its fucking 2024, if you want to beat republicans you need to elect progressives

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

For years I've seen leftists complaining about 'harm reduction' and 'lesser evil' and how the dems are ignoring their vote. But all we ever do is bicker with ourselves. We don't have a united front. We don't have any reliable voting bloc.

They literally don't care about us because there is nothing to care about. If Dems court one leftist group they risk alienating another because of our unnecessary purity tests and virtue signaling. It's so much easier and more reliable to get votes if you tack to the center so that's what they do.

Meanwhile we don't do any meaningful activism or organizing. We don't vote practically and only get excited about voting when we have an exciting candidate. Leftists seem to expect their vote to have power but it doesn't have any. And it's entirely our own fault because you have to actually do the work to get the power.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

do the work

What work is this? Writing your representatives? Voting in primaries? Voting every year there's an election no matter how local? Knocking on doors and phone banking? Donating to campaigns?

And if that's not the work, please tell me what the work actually is because I've done all those things and have no power to show for it.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mad respect to you for the effort you put into it - all those things matter. Problem is we don’t do it as a community. Most leftists think their vote is the be-all end-all if they even vote at all, so of course not enough of us are doing what you’re doing.

Beyond that, getting involved locally and/or running for office would be powerful too. Grassroots movements have been shown to work and we don’t have anything remotely like it.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago
[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Clinton Clinton Bush 2 Bush 2 Obama Obama Fuckface Biden Fuckface

Its as even as you can get over 9 terms (4:5)

Let's not forget how much absolute harm Bush and Fuckface caused, and I'm not even counting Fuckface's homicidal COVID response.

The US would have universal healthcare and a sane supreme Court if it wasn't for Republicans.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago
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