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People use microsoft office at home?
I'm an accountant. My life would be plenty hard without Excel. Google or LibreOffice are nowhere near sufficient. As much as I hate to admit that, because I'm definitely no fan of Microsoft, but for me there's also no alternative.
I'm also old enough to wish that LotusNotes and Lotus123 won the race. LotusNotes especially, it was the shit.
You do accounting at home?
Yes. I'm a self employed professional. I mean I have different computers, I have my laptop for instance which is for work only. But it's still my laptop.
I mean, I do some accounting at home (my savings, taxes) but I don't see why they require $150 software for their home accounting.
You probably don't for personal budgeting and tracking of items for tax purposes. Any run of the mill spreadsheet will work just fine for that purpose.
I'm a chartered accountant though, like think of me as a free agent if you will, I'm not tethered to anything or anyone. I do professional work or give professional advice in exchange for currencies of various origins. My work as such, is a bit more complicated, and I need Excel. Sometimes I have to shared access to files for instance, or I need to share a file with someone, who won't have libre because they are using Excel locked behind a corporate environment they don't control. Libre Calc does have some unique functions that I'd argue Excel doesn't have, but on the flip side Excel has more advanced functions, and xlookup, which I pretty much use every day. Google Sheets isn't even in this conversation, and I personally have a hard dislike for Google Workspace apps in every form.
It would be nice if there was an actual alternative, and I think Libre would probably be the closest viable one. The gap is narrowing. Microsoft Office is atrocious in price, but thankfully easily hackable though, although in a professional environment you have to be more careful with this, than you personally would care to be. It's also a memory pig for absolutely no reason, and so full of historical bugs they haven't cared to fix for 30+ years. Plus some new ones that are infuriating. And you could set Microsoft Word on fire with no complaints from me.
I could see why it has use for professional accounting esp. when live editing. LibreOffice still doesn't do live editing.
But what accounting do you do for your personal life itself that would require MS Excel? I'm asking since it's the topic of the post; buying MS Office pro with a laptop for home use.
sidenote, LibreOffice does have xlookuo and I've happily used it a number of times before, I thought it'd be nice to know
I use Dynamics365 as my accounting software to keep track of my own personal stuff, which is tied in pretty tightly with excel, I wouldn't be able to export anything without it. Actually I'm not even sure I'd be able to use it at all really. I also use Word more often than one would think, just for general around the house things. My investments too, like I use excel exports to do analysis on tables of data, stuff like regression and 50 day/200 day plotting, and general chart analysis. Probably could maybe get away with that on the free stuff, I'm not sure.
You don't need pro to do any of this. The normal Office Home license is sufficient. And for personal use, it would be a real son of a gun if you accidentally downloaded them off the office website and then went to https://massgrave.dev/ and by grave mistake typed in a few of those commands
Yes, because Outlook is still superior to Thunderbird (sadly)
How so?
I don't use outlook anymore but I do use Thunderbird and the UI is janky and outdated, plus it has to download and catch up on messages every time you open it.
Thanks for explaining!
Have you used it in the past ~6 months? They updated their design a lot recently.
In the meantime Outlook updated their app to look and behave like the limited Windows Mail...
Thunderbird in 2024 still doesn't give you the option to use 12 hour time.
I recently had to help a client move e-mails between two accounts and thunderbird out-timed multiple times. After finding out that not our firewall or the account is the issue (two gmail accounts) I looked and found some report on the mozilla forum about the issue. The workaround was to copy it first locally and then move a certain amount of emails manually.
Also I prefer the UI over current Thunderbird but I think this design could win me over:
But it seemingly needs to be configured manually to achieve that look reddit link?
Not really in the mood for trying that out.
I also need to mention I make heavy use of my personal domain and have several email accounts. It's already a pain to manage them on the phone but sadly even there the option is gmail or outlook. Didnt look too much into alternatives but I am cagey about others having access to my SMTP password.
Yes, I heard that Microsoft attempted to hijack the (new) Mail app on Windows11 to MS news but I (hope) that they don't do that with their Outlook Android/Windows version and only with their native Win11 client
That new UX for outlook is infuriating though. I had to switch back to old outlook.
If you have android then Thunderbird is available for it now, just so you know. iphone is out of luck though.
That design is just their current design unless I'm missing something?
Last time I saw it installed it looked like the classic UI.
Maybe time to look at it again.
Do you know if and how well inbox rules in thunderbird work?
No its not.
You are entitled to your own opinion but so am I.
This opinion is purely from a usability standpoint. I like the office suite and prefer the editing and menu over open/libre office.
And I say this as someone that created letter templates for clients.
Creating forms is way easier on Writer though. Very good (free) way to create forms!
It is, but not enough to move the needle. It also carries a bunch of bloat.
Recent Outlook doesn't carry bloat. Or 70% of its former features.
That's not the only email clients in existence, surely there are other ones that better? How many people even use desktop email client anymore?
I also use Roundcube with several plugins/add-ons.