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Moved this here because I watched the rest of the video and he gets shitty at the end.

How do we get people like Norm to stop being credulous about flawed science and fucking bigotry.

His larger point with the video is more interesting but it gets lost in anti-trans shit at the end

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[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your stream of thought is much clearer than my attempts to write coherently, good job!

People need to read Losurdo's class struggle. It's legitimately the best book that covers this (though from a historical and not specifically trans-supporting perspective), outlining how other struggles (and LGBTQ fits the mold perfectly) are class struggles. It honestly makes it super clear relative to the confusion made by "class reductionists" or "struggles outside of class" people.

Finkelstein seems to me to just be unwilling to see all class struggles intertwined and accepts his assumptions about trans struggle without consideration. He is, of course, not Marxist so I wouldn't expect him to think this. But it is disappointing to see that this mistake can allow/lead to such hateful and incorrect positions.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He is, of course, not Marxist so I wouldn't expect him to think this. But it is disappointing to see that this mistake can allow/lead to such hateful and incorrect positions.

I thought he was a former Marxist Leninist Maoist?

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I should say, I'm not super familiar with his history or how he currently calls himself but his positions and analyses are markedly not Marxist. Maybe he was at some point or called himself Marxist, but he's not now acting as a Marxist. He's still often useful and giving good information, details, and arguments though. But a distinct filter needs to be used for applying his work to the world as a Marxist