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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 52 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I wish one of them would wander in here so I could ask a question:

(gonna focus on American politics here but this maps to other Western contexts) Obviously if you're an anarchist/radical liberal/whatever you have a lot of disagreements with the "tankies." I'm gonna assume a tankie to be someone with the views of Vijay Prashad, Losurdo, Parenti, something in that vicinity. They want a socialist state to oppress the bourgeoisie, while still maintaining some capitalist production relations as a means to develop productive forces (obviously some anti-Dengists will disagree here, but you know, general vibes). That's a reasonable ideological disagreement. But here's what I don't get: the difference in what you aim to achieve is meaningful, but still quite small; whereas the difference between your goals and the Democratic Party's goals couldn't be more different. You want to abolish all unjust hierarchies, right? How can you be so hostile to "tankies" that wish to preserve like 20% of the unjust hierarchies you dislike, but vote for the Democratic Party which is actively preserving 100% of the hierarchies? If you have any principles at all, why are you so hostile to "tankies" yet you seem to be quite comfortable with a political party that is actively committing genocide. Are tankies not an even lesser evil? What reasoning could lead you to think that they aren't?

[–] blame@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

i think the thing that keeps me on this side of the "tankie" line is I just can't understand how anarchists plan on dealing with antagonistic capitalist states. Look at the world socialist countries exist in. You have to be decisive with putting down opposition and you should get nuclear weapons because otherwise the CIA is gonna be in there causing trouble. Without considering the realities of a communist state or whatever they want to call it coming into existence it's just idealism.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you want some sectarian commentary that explores this divide check out

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3353112/3457999

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Woah that was a good read

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