146
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2023
146 points (95.6% liked)
Steam Deck
15061 readers
121 users here now
A place to discuss and support all things Steam Deck.
Replacement for r/steamdeck_linux.
As Lemmy doesn't have flairs yet, you can use these prefixes to indicate what type of post you have made, eg:
[Flair] My post title
The following is a list of suggested flairs:
[Discussion] - General discussion.
[Help] - A request for help or support.
[News] - News about the deck.
[PSA] - Sharing important information.
[Game] - News / info about a game on the deck.
[Update] - An update to a previous post.
[Meta] - Discussion about this community.
Some more Steam Deck specific flairs:
[Boot Screen] - Custom boot screens/videos.
[Selling] - If you are selling your deck.
These are not enforced, but they are encouraged.
Rules:
- Follow the rules of Sopuli
- Posts must be related to the Steam Deck in an obvious way.
- No piracy, there are other communities for that.
- Discussion of emulators are allowed, but no discussion on how to illegally acquire ROMs.
- This is a place of civil discussion, no trolling.
- Have fun.
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
Malware labeled "anticheat software" that wants obscene access to low level OS information and is a massive security liability.
The driver-level anti-cheat that was used by Genshin Impact and then later on ransomware should always be brought up on the topic of anti-cheat.
I think maybe you should re-evaluate your definition of "perfectly legitimate".
Just like the ~~Mafioso~~ "perfectly legitimate businessmen" who offer fire insurance and personal injury insurance door to door, after dark. Be a real shame if something were to happen.
I can understand that bugs happen. It's absolutely possible for well intentioned software to have a fatal flaw that leads to catastrophic security breaches.
But there's no scenario where a game having that access is defensible. It's gross overreach that can't possibly be in good faith and you deserve all the hate you get if anything bad happens.
The way people who cheat talk about input modifier devices leaves a bad taste in my mouth, so I can understand why a driver level system was considered.
Cheaters in online games really are the worst type of people because they feel entitled to ruin other peoples games. It’s one thing to “level up” your solo experience. It’s a different thing to intend to ruin someone else’s.
Even if we pretended it was possible for their anticheat to work (it isn't), it's pure unredeemable evil to think it's possible for there to be a scenario you're entitled to that access.
If 50 percent of players were cheaters without that access and literally no one ever cheated again with it, you would be a monster to consider using it. It should be a criminal offense with mandatory jail time to the CEO and board of directors for every single computer it's installed on.
Reminds me of Sony's Rootkit. Except now it's normal.
If you don't have people cheating with your malware installed (which you don't actually have evidence for), the literal only possible explanation of that is that no one cares enough to cheat properly.
Using a video camera pointed at the screen to control a mouse and keyboard that are exactly identical in every way to a real mouse and keyboard is not hard to do and no level of rootkit can ever under any circumstance detect it. It's unconditionally impossible for their malware to detect any mildly sophisticated cheater.
That's literally all it takes for an undetectable aim-bot. It is unconditionally impossible to prevent from happening under any circumstance.
If your game is a piece of shit that gives users information they shouldn't have, requiring fucking malware you should be in prison for thousands of life sentences for isn't the solution. Fixing your game so it uses authoritative servers that don't leak information is.
There is no possible scenario where installing a rootkit for "security" doesn't both massively compromise security in every context and prove beyond any doubt that you are an unredeemable piece of shit. It's not forgivable.
Let's punch a huge hole in the OS and go from there. That sounds perfectly reasonable.
I could maybe somehow understand it, if it would bring you absolute safety from cheaters, the funniest part about this is, the cheat devs are still above them, so just throw in the towel of trying to destroy the safety of legitimate players devices if you are still losing anyway.