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How the Plane and Helicopter Crash in Washington, D.C., Happened: Maps and Graphics (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz

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Important context:

January 20: FAA director fired
January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Staffing was not normal at air traffic control

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 69 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Trump killed 67 Americans and it’s still January 2025.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The last time he killed about 450.000 so, today is still below average.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 6 days ago

You're assuming that the plane crash is a full count. I'd be really surprised if some of the other things he's done this week (eg: limiting access to reimbursement for health care) haven't killed people.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is an overreach that minimizes the people who are actually impacted by Trump's actions.

This was the heli pilot's error, plain and simple. Tower was following protocol and did not grant clearance because they were short on staff or something ridiculous like that.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 9 points 6 days ago

Individual human failures are often a symptom of broader and larger systemic problems. Pointing out these systemic problems is not over reach.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They were short on staff because of Trump.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This specific tower was not short on staff, and again, ATC doesn't just start issuing faulty clearances when they're short staffed.

Use your brain.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

New York Times reported that "Staffing Was ‘Not Normal’ at Reagan Airport Tower, According to F.A.A. Report"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/business/air-traffic-control-staffing-plane-crash.html

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

If you read a little deeper, you'd know that ATC error wasn't the cause of the crash. The clearance issued was perfectly valid

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but the Democrats hate trans people!!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

A genoside squirrel!