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Important context:

  • January 20: FAA director fired
  • January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
  • January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
  • January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
  • January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Staffing was not normal at air traffic control

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 69 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Trump killed 67 Americans and it’s still January 2025.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The last time he killed about 450.000 so, today is still below average.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 6 days ago

You're assuming that the plane crash is a full count. I'd be really surprised if some of the other things he's done this week (eg: limiting access to reimbursement for health care) haven't killed people.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is an overreach that minimizes the people who are actually impacted by Trump's actions.

This was the heli pilot's error, plain and simple. Tower was following protocol and did not grant clearance because they were short on staff or something ridiculous like that.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 9 points 6 days ago

Individual human failures are often a symptom of broader and larger systemic problems. Pointing out these systemic problems is not over reach.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They were short on staff because of Trump.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This specific tower was not short on staff, and again, ATC doesn't just start issuing faulty clearances when they're short staffed.

Use your brain.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

New York Times reported that "Staffing Was ‘Not Normal’ at Reagan Airport Tower, According to F.A.A. Report"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/business/air-traffic-control-staffing-plane-crash.html

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

If you read a little deeper, you'd know that ATC error wasn't the cause of the crash. The clearance issued was perfectly valid

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but the Democrats hate trans people!!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

A genoside squirrel!

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago

Even though this was the FIRST Mid Air Collision since 2008 and it happened AFTER gutting Federal Aviation Workers it's OBVIOUSLY BIDEN AND OBAMAS FAULT!

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I heard Trump blamed this on DEI 🙄

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No past tense, they are blaming this on DEI, and they will succeed. Because people are fucking stupid.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

They know that their base hates it (not that they probably even understand what it is) and so it makes a good scapegoat.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I actually agree with him, if they didnt give an unfair advantage to put a rare orange manchild in the job, some 'regular' person might have become president instead. SAD

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

He's a DEI - Dickhead with Evil Intent

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can summarize it:

Plane going in one direction Helicopter going in a different direction

Plane and Helicopter cross paths.

[–] jdnewmil@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

3d trajectories. Heli was 100ft higher than it was cleared to be.