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I'm at the point where I just want America to burn (lemmygrad.ml)

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I know accelerationism is wrong, but honestly, I feel like Americans deserve a taste of fascism and imperial misrule. The Democrats are way too competent in their evil—cold, calculated, and insidious. At least with Trump and the Republicans, the evil is blatant, in your face, and easier to hate. I want Trump to gut NATO from within. I want him to tariff the U.S. into the ground. I want him to drive the usbeconomy straight off a cliff. I’m at the point where I want this whole rotten system to collapse under its own internal contradictions. The world would be better off without the U.S. pulling the strings everywhere.

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yeah i get all of that, i'm not saying they aren't going to do their best to try to control the information space. And they will succeed to a degree. But i find that the mistake that the imperial elites usually make, is that they don't expect the people they're trying to do stuff to, to actually react and not just take it lying down.

I mean the whole story around TikTok still hasn't played out yet, we'll have to wait and see how it ends, but i think that already the attempt to corral everyone back onto Meta platforms has somewhat blown up in their faces, particularly when it comes to young people.

Another example of this kind of hubris and inability to imagine their enemies as actors in their own right is how they were so convinced they would be able to bring Russia to its knees with sanctions. They seem to have convinced themselves that Russia wouldn't fight back.

I think the same is true to some degree for the American people, as indoctrinated as they are - yes many of them will fall for one or another propaganda narrative, but i think even more, across the political spectrum even, will be very skeptical, and many will even be radicalized by such heavy handed attempts to control them. They may be un-educated or mis-educated but people as a whole - this is true for any country - aren't stupid.

What i see is that a lot of them, across a pretty broad political spectrum, are just very disillusioned with the establishment. (I'm referring here to working class people, not the well-off upper middle classes.) They don't trust the media anymore, they certainly don't trust the government, and they despise people like Zuckerberg, Gates, Bezos, and even increasingly Musk himself, whose fan club of weirdo ass-kissers really seems to be shrinking these days.

I don't know, i guess i'm just sort of an optimist about these things, and maybe that is rooted in what i observe in the spaces that i pay attention to (which admittedly are not necessarily representative of the whole population), or maybe that is a choice that we can consciously make, to not give in to despair and not let the ruling class intimidate us into defeatism.