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I see it more communicating this idea that as other countries rightfully discuss the ramifications and impact that a fascist American leader has on them, Americans feel the need to pop in and make it about themselves and seek some kind of validation. Like, okay, cool, how about you go fix your damn fascist country then instead of seeking brownie points?
A protest in France looks very different than a protest in the states.. all I'm saying.
Our police also are a lot different... ours is just an Abrams short of the miltary.
You understand the guy driving the Abrams is also your neighbour right?
My neighbors are mostly MAGAts. So i dont think they'll be on my side.
The police in the US largely side with fascists. They in large part become police officers just to have power over people. No, not all police are like that, but there are always a few in every department, and "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" as they say. Police officers who try to stand up to these people get punished for it. The rot goes deep.
so send some fucking experts to us. at least make some youtube tutorials or something.
I've trying to become a giant statuesque torch-wielding woman but it's very difficult
I got it
Do the Women's Tiki Torch March!
Huh, that's weird, only Nazis showed up?
You're right. The cops roll up and start shooting people.
Saying americans dont protest correctly isnt looking at the whole picture.
What the fuck is a correct protest? The only thing that matters is the results.
For a country that loves guns you sure don't fucking use em unless it involves a school or strip mall. A majority of your country is just complacent.
I know, it's this majorly explosive issue. What are your feelings about the bomb of serious awareness you're seeking? That pop ain't soda today. Would you like something to help the chemistry of your emotions about this? I know there are solutions available to bring a big bang of handling this.
As an American, I truly believe we dont protest correctly. Even when theyre done violently they dont institute that much change. Were too afraid to step on the toes of our oppressors. French protests go fucking hard though. Tough to top their revolution where they paraded the corrupt and rich out into the streets to stand in line for a turn at the guillotine. If you ask me, we need to start getting a little more medieval.
That face when you see acab and fuck 12 spray painted all over Lyon.
Our police can shoot us dead and people in most of the country will look the other way because law and order, especially if you're not white. America has been fascist for a long time, it didn't suddenly start under Trump.
Look at the BLM protests, they were huge, but the sentiment of half of the country was against them and there were many who fantasized about police or vigilantes making the streets run with blood. And in the end the thugs with badges are still well funded and well armed.
And what are you going to do about it?
It's almost as if we don't control the media, social media, or how other people think.
We're stuck on this stupid train that takes directions from every idiot no matter what their direction is, like "ok now drive off that cliff!"
Not sure how powerless people change that. We're well past the age of guillotines. At least the peasants of the past shared a common reality. With propagandists and social media we live in multiple versions of "reality" all fighting to be the "real" one...
The peasants of the past had the same weaponry as the oppressors.
Plus Europeans who have zero concept of how large the US is. France can have basically the entire country show up to protest, but that'll never happen in the US.
Yeah I'm like an entire days drive from DC or something and I don't have a car or money for the extremely (intentionally) limited and expensive transportation options to get there. Plus they've been passing the older military equipment down through agencies to the point where my Midwestern hometown of like 20k people has an APC and grenade launchers. Its not looking good unless the military stands up for us, which I have a little hope for because of this update I'll attach, but I don't want to hand them all the power in the vacuum that is created afterwards because as has been pointed out many times here in this thread and elsewhere, they have a huge impact on the rest of the world, in particular the global south, and the MIC as a whole is the world's largest polluter and historically is a massive driver of suffering and subjugation abroad and at home. I am very much afraid for everyone, and I hold the value of all human lives equality. The situation has become so complex with layers of psyops, propaganda, and misinformation, plus AI, healthcare, and so on, it's all connected and it's all toxic and fucked up because in some way everyone in our society buys into the literal death cult that is capitalism, and the country (if not much of the world) runs on cognitive dissonance just to not collapse under the weight of all the contradictions that are required to maintain the status quo.
Update on the army:
(Obviously much of this is based on my experience and my experience is not necessarily universal, as I apparently have to point out extremely clearly every time I make a statement of opinion on Lemmy lately)
You hit the nail on the head.
I'm not saying it'll go this far, but if we have to fight a war and their kid gets drafted, we're not just gonna not shoot him just because their daddy/mommy disagrees with their president. Unless they're willing to infiltrate and spy for us, they're basically insignificant bystanders.
Oh wow its almost like everyone is suffering and people with your shitty attitude are the problem as well.
Dude the biggest impact is on Americans
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America didnt effectively clean their house for 50 years, their house is now so infested with rats that they are coming onto our property and Americans want to be involved in our discussions on our rat problems because they have it worse...
I don't think that's usually the message we're trying to get across. It's very easy to say "well they elected him, just fix it, its your own fault" because most don't grasp the reality of the situation from the outside. A large majority of our population does not want this, even those who bought the lies before the election.
It's not just America's house it's a global problem. Saying "Hello, just a reminder that We Don't Fucking Want This" and "As bad as it looks internationally its much worse domestically" is an alarm bell, not brownie points.
The same guys fucking our country are meddling internationally with yours, but now with official government resources. If you don't want the same thing to happen, take drastic measures. Ban AfD, cut off fascist media platforms, seize assets, whatever you have to do. As problematic as any of that sounds, risking the alternative is not worth it.
Maybe these Americans should do something about it.