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Whaaaaaaaa...?? "A human creation?" You can't have it both ways. Either the Bible is the word of God, or it's ALL "a human creation". But allowing for the sake of discussion that God exists, etc, the NT endorses slavery, discusses how to practice it morally, and says nothing to oppose it. The Christian god thinks it's okay for humans to own humans, according to both the OT and the NT; no different than owning a house or livestock.
What? God gave humans free will. God didn't made slavery, didn't made money, or democracy, didn't made wars. Basically He created the world as it was during paradise and the rest is our creation.
Although I would argue Angels are like slaves but that's not exactly the point of this and at least one rebelled so I don't know to what point they are or were slaves.
Haha no, god explicitly commanded slavery on multiple different instances. That's irrelevant though, as god is the one who created everything knowing how it would turn out with full ability to prevent it, making it 100% his fault. For example:
When God supposedly created Adam and Eve, he had perfect foreknowledge that they would eat from the tree and cause the bullshit that is the fall and original sin. And yet, he still put the tree there. He still put the serpent there. He still gave them access to the tree. He could have chosen not to let any of these things happen, but he didn't.
When a toddler swallows a bottle of poison you've left on the floor, whose fault is it? (Hint: it's not the toddler's, and it's certainly not the toddler's future great great great great great grandchildren's)
Christians never have a reply to this. Actually no... I've seen some of them literally say that slavery is fine after having this discussion.
Nah you just don't get it, slavery is fine when god commands it because he created us and might makes right, obviously. /s
Yeah, I will occasionally throw call-in shows like the atheist experience on as background noise while I do things. I've heard my share of terrible takes on why slavery on the bible is actually a good thing.
Hey, same lol... After a while you realize how few arguments they have. It's always the same handful, and people call in thinking they're gonna blow the guy who's been doing this for 30 years' mind
God commanded his followers to enslave people multiple times. Here is an introductory article on the topic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery
So all Jesus had to do was say, "hey guys don't own other humans" and yet he didn't? Instead he actually condoned slavery? And his followers went on for decades after his death preaching for slaves to obey their masters?
Real cool guy.
You're heading towards the problem of evil and determinism. Those topics are way to big for a casual post like this and have been argued for and against for a very long time. I don't this you'll be able to convince anyone of anything here.
I am not here to convince anyone, just sharing my opinion and reading other's opinion.