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[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, sorry. Please don't mistake me for a social democrat, my description is nebulous because my politics are a bit beyond your instance's tastes. πŸ˜…

I have seen far too many half hearted attempts at general strikes with poor planning amount to near nothing. To me it seems that there are strata of political discordance, and each strata requires a greater number of participants. While strikes are a a very powerful tool they require a sizable buy in, and prolonged efforts to take effect. Further they exist as an appeal to the current system to allow concessions, rather than a deconstruction of the current paradigm. I ask this genuinely, what would you see as reasonable concessions for a general strike that would be achievable enough to be met, while still powerful enough that it would reshape the fundamental white supremacy and fascism that has been cultivated in the US since reconstruction? Not to mention the issues of the status quo before Trump, police militarization, climate change, military industrial complex, to name a few.

To me a more meaningful effort would be to build paths that help others divorce themselves from the old systems, while they destroy themselves. As opposed to trying to organize a country wide general strike.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I have seen far too many half hearted attempts at general strikes

Cool. So what general strikes have you seen or been a part of? Because my count of the general strikes since the year 2000, 6 out of seven accomplished their goals, at least in part.

they exist as an appeal to the current system to allow concessions

I mean. They can be that. They can also be the starting point for something far more. The reality that we face is that we either gum up the works and stop this machine before it gets any more ramped up, or become too disabled to stop it. Time is not on our side.

I ask this genuinely, what would you see as reasonable concessions for a general strike that would be achievable enough to be met, while still powerful enough that it would reshape the fundamental white supremacy and fascism that has been cultivated in the US since reconstruction?

I think what you are asking for is something that can't be built until a process begins. I don't know even in part what that might look like. However, as civil society continues to erode, even beginning that process becomes more difficult to impossible. You don't always get to know how you'll accomplish something when you start. Its a situation of either do it poorly or accept the worst possible outcome.

I advocate that Sean Fein consider significantly increasing their timelines. I think April. The unions represent a starting point, and especially groups like teachers unions. If kids aren't going to school that suddenly makes everything much harder for parents, who can be forced into a position of a defacto strike.

If Bernie Sanders and AOC, along with Randi Weingarten, Sean O'Brien, Shawn Fain, came together and called for a general strike, along with setting a date, there is enough disgust in the current political climate; its about as good a shot as any that you would have.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I cannot list them off the top of my head, but I am curious about the 6 you mentioned and their goals and how they met them.